Tuesday, May 6, 2008

Positive, not negative.

This is an urgent message regarding this internet blog.

This blog is here to introduce leadership challenger Councillor Colin Auty. It is here to explain what Cllr Auty intends to do if he wins, and why it is that people should vote for Cllr Auty.

Despite it being obvious that there is a lot of anti-Nick Griffin sentiment out there in the British National Party at present, this blog will not be used to personally attack either Nick Griffin or anyone else within the current BNP Leadership. There are many forums and websites that people can go to in order to express their feelings, if the feelings are overtly negative. However, we are hoping for a fair and balanced election, and we thus expect all leadership challengers to be decent with one another and not to resort to name-calling and mud-slinging. To this end, we are only going to focus on positive things, and we will only publish comments that are either positive or offer constructive criticism.

We will not tolerate bad language being used, and we want to use facts not rumours. Only comments that are accompanied by a full name will be allowed – there will be no more anonymous posts. Thanks to all who have submitted positive posts so far, though if they are anonymous then please re-post them in your name as all current anonymous posts will be pulled by 5pm today.

Colin is seeking to be a voice of reconciliation, a voice of unity at a time when the BNP is splintered, and a voice of progression while the BNP is stagnating.

I hope everyone will appreciate this stance.

16 comments:

Anti-gag said...

while I totally agree with the decision not to publish either abuse comments or those containing bad language, I do feel you should still allow reasoned comments to be posted anonymously.

Many members will feel too intimidated, by the Griffin/Collett gang, to post under their own names. Remember the proscription notice issued just last month against both the EiE blog and the VoC website.

Being able to express an objective opinion should be every members right without fear of retaliation. I ask you please continue to allow such freedom of expression to our members.


From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

PS.
I would also like to most humbly and sincerely apologise to Mr Griffin/Collett for posting on these sites after they have told me not to. Please forgive me. As I've said before: I won't do it again, honest!

Anti-gag said...

After reading through all the many good comments on the last posting, I do think this one is a particularly good idea.

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Nick Griffin is now leading a party which is in open revolt against him, he must do the decent thing and resign for the good of the party. Let Mark Collett stand against Colin Auty for the leadership, and both sides should agree to fall in behind the winner, because only a truly united party can save our country.

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Nice thought that, Cllr Auty 'V' Mark Collett.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

PS.
My apologise once again go out to the Griifin/Collett gang.

neil craig bradford said...

Can anyone please tell me if the leadership challenge as been accepted by Mr Gri££en and the Party. If so are both parties using the same rule book, it would be a great miscarriage if only one of the candidates boxed clean while the other bites his opponents ear off.

Anonymous said...

I am glad that this website has taken a mature stance. There is a danger that this leadership contest could turn into a slanging match, which is something that we really do not want.

We need to be seen to be a professional Party. The Party should have hustings and each candidate should get quizzed by members in different areas of the country. Each challenger should get to write a detailed article in ID, VOF, the website and BN.

Internal democracy should be applauded and welcomed.

We need to show the public that we are a democratic party - if we can't even show that we value internal democracy, then how on earth are we going to convince them that we are worth voting for?

I beg all side to make this a fantastic and friendly leadership contest that we can all be proud of. I have heard Nick speak though not Colin. I would like to hear Colin speak to see what he has to say, especially now that he is standing for Leader.

Greg Turner

Anonymous said...

I agree with that Greg.
However, the last campaign was a farce as Chris Jackson was not allowed to campaign at all.
This must be changed this time round otherwise we will be a laughing stock.

Ben Smith

DaveCollins said...

How can you argue that the BNP is "stagnating" when it has just got Barnbrook elected to the GLA, has 100 councillors, is breaking new ground e.g. in Wales and has the UK's most visited website?

Anti-gag said...

Colin's explanation of the reasons for this democratic leadership challenge should stay as the first posting on this blog. Members visiting for the first time may not bother to scroll down the blog, and the later postings do not put the case for leadership change anything like as clearly as Colin's original posting. This blog's prime purpose must be to win the hearts and minds of our members over to our course.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

Hi Dave

The BNP is stagnating.
The Party stood 658 candidates and got 13 elected – that is a percentage of less than 2%. This is pathetic when we should be the ones taking votes from a Labour Party that is falling apart at the seams. We only just scraped onto the London Assembly - we should have had two or three seats on the Assembly and had real power. As it is now, Richard will not really be able to do much on his own other than be a nuisance.

We are being held back by severe internal problems and a poor media image. I think that Nick Griffin is responsible for both and must step down. There is no reason why he can't still work for the BNP doing something, yet being the leader and the one pulling the strings?

I think that we need change and I know that there are as many good Nationalists outside of the BNP than there are in it - they all will not or can't rejoin because of Nick Griffin.

Best wishes
Chris Brown

Final Conflict said...

Comments should be allowed - anonymous or otherwise provided they are cogent, courteous (within reason) and devoid of profanity. With so few areas left uncontrolled by a certain clique and its hired hands, it is most important that nationalists be able to debate freely within certain moral parameters. Otherwise people will flock to less constrained avenues, use false names etc., and vent their spleen in a less convivial atmosphere wherein they will be whipped up and/or proviked by "trolls" seeking to maximise bad feeling and trivial gossip instead of concentrating on facts, ideals and similar.

Stuart
Final Conflict

Anonymous said...

Councillor Auty - I'm concerned about things I'm hearing - I hear that they are going to try to get your membership revoked because you link to a 'proscribed' site (this would be a comedy if it wasn't real I know).

neil craig bradford said...

In answer to dave collins.
The BNP under Gri££in as more than stagnated, yes Barnbrook personally and his activists managed to get the meager 5% needed to take a seat on the assembley.In Bradford a new party only weeks old managed 9% in one ward and over 7% in another 2 wards. The BNP have had 4 years to prepare for the GLA elections with good preparation and the state of the existing parties surely more than one seat should have been won!.
Secondly yes the BNP has 100 councillors and everyone deserves praise for putting their heads above the parrapet and being at the very forefront of local activism.Parish councillors do a great job, but the real sign of success is how many town and district councillors the party has. They are the indication of how the electorate find our policies and our image and the real way to test our popularity. Can I also suggest that some of the councillors in place are there because of financial not political gain. With a new impetus Mr Auty will bring and a change of the image we are perceived to hold the BNP will grow from strength to strength.
The BNP as not stagnated it as been strangulatd

Dave Collins said...

Hi Chris (Brown)
Thanks for your answer
So if we had a new leader the liberal media would suddenly fall in love with the BNP-we would get a surge of votes and be on the way to power?
Heard this before Chris-same argument used by Kingley Read in the 1970s

Anonymous said...

Dave Collins said...
Hi Chris (Brown)
Thanks for your answer
So if we had a new leader the liberal media would suddenly fall in love with the BNP-we would get a surge of votes and be on the way to power?
Heard this before Chris-same argument used by Kingley Read in the 1970s



This is not the case at all, and I never suggested it would be.
The media is always going to bash the BNP, yet if what they are saying is actually true i.e. Griffin denying the holocaust (whatever your stance on it, if it is the anti-PC stance it is a massive voter turn off as it makes the Party look extreme and cranky) or Collett's comments on Young, Nazi & Proud, then it will have much more effect than if it is just romours etc.
If the main man in the Party is the one who our ememies can make hay with, then this is going to be more damaging than if it was a local Organiser in Anytown.

Regards
Chris Brown

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Charlie Kray said...

To Chris Brown,

The poor media image of the BNP does not appear to be particularly focussed on the personality of Nick Griffin.

They seem determined to attack the party because it is the BNP and do their level best to give a negative portrayal of whoever stands as a BNP candidate.

If there was any truth in your claim, the media would most likely now be casting some BNP officials in a positive light - such as, for example, the current challenger?

However, they do not, & they are not very likely to do so either.

It seems being involved with the British National Party entails receiving negative treatment from the media.

I think it is extremely disingenuous of you to suggest this is Nick Griffin’s fault.

Let us, though, imagine your candidate wins.

What will you do next to transform the BNP in the eyes of the media?

After all, the media are not currently saying ‘that party is not democratic, it is run as a dictatorship’.

Only you & your friends are saying this.

The media tend to say: ‘They are racist & fascist, & they should not be given a platform.’

What will you do to change that?

I have a suggestion.

Why don’t you let blacks into the party - I mean, invite ethnic minorities to join?

Then you can be like UKIP – an anti-EU party without a colour bar.

Then perhaps the media will start being nice to you. Because they’ll know you’ve definitively changed.

I believe you should add this proposal to your platform.

Anonymous said...

To Charlie Kray

How can the media say that the BNP are fascist, yet by the same token not say that they are 'not democratic and run like a dictatorship'? They are the same thing!

By saying that we are fascist it pretty much counts us out as being democratic and counts us in being a dictatorship - in their words of course.

While the entire media image is not built up based solely on Nick Griffin (I never said it was) - he does reinforce many of the public perceptions. He has denied the holocaust (I beleive that any BNP candidate or official should refuse any question on that subject as irrelevent to us) and recently shared a platform, very unwisely, with a holocaust denier in Oxford.

What I find very interesting, is why the media have not hammered the BNP on a number of points:
Mass, seemingly unlawful, expulsion of members and officials.
The bugging of officials homes.
The breaking in of, and stealing from, officials homes.
The fact that past officials were taken to court by the Party.
Allegations that two grown men, who were senior party official, tried to bed two underage girls.
The list could go on and on.

In any other Party, or even Organisation, this would be plastered all over the media! Yet why not with Nick Griffin?

My opinion is that the state has profiled Griffin, and has a great interest in keeping him in power. He is a dictator, he is paranoid, he can't manage, he is dodgy with money (the guy has been made bankrupt) and he has lots and lots of baggage. What a great way to hold back a Party with limitless potential - keep Griffin in.

Please note, that although they are both enemies of the real British people, the media and the UAF are not the same, even if it sometimes appears they are spouting the same stuff. So while the UAF will call us whatever names they thing will have the most effect, the media, while largely against us, do on occasion write more truthfully and less agressively.

I don't believe that non-whites should ever be allowed into the Party and it is not racist to promote this policy. They have their countries, we have ours. They have their organisations, we have ours.

If the media called the BNP racist to the public, yet the public heard Colin speak rationally about race and culture, then it diminishes the effect of the media.

If the media call Griffin a holocaust denier, then back it up with quotes and a court transcript if need be, then it has a much greater effect.

Best wishes
Chris Brown