Sunday, July 13, 2008

Our BNP – we will not abandon you! The campaign continues…….


How times have changed, can anyone remember back to the early Red, White & Blue festivals in Wales?
The atmosphere was there, a sense of purpose and solidarity; it rained like hell but it didn’t matter because inside everyone was warm and fighting for the same cause and it felt fantastic.

I have attended every single RWB, and I always worked hard like many people for sometimes days leading up to the ‘big weekend’ itself as well as throughout it; it had to be one of the hardest week's work I would encounter during the year.
However, this year myself, along with a great many other ex-members and current members, will not be attending for various reasons.

Home truths

Several Party members have been in contact with the Challenge for Leadership team, and have expressed some very worrying home truths about the situation within the Party.
It has become abundantly clear that the Party is now in very serious financial trouble. The tone of desperation in the letters sent personally by Griffin to all and sundry indicate this with clarity. These ‘begging letters’ as they are referred to by Party members, have supposedly
been designed by some high-flying marketing genius to get into people's minds and help relieve them of their cash.

Sorry, we are not that stupid Mr Griffin

However, these letters appear to have been wasted on the membership of our Party, that have to actually toil for their daily bread and are not as stupid as were first hoped, so it seems. One member contacted us and said, quote} "These bloody letters are an embarrassment, I’ll not pay another penny so he can go and waste it or lose another blimp"

It’s fascinating that although myself, along with many other people have been unconstitutionally thrown out of the Party without even the courtesy of a tribunal, and are not permitted to go near a Party function or meeting on the orders of Griffin, we all still regularly receive these ever desperate begging letters! An interesting situation indeed I’m sure everyone would agree.

To greater coincidence?

As mentioned before in a pervious article, the removal of John Walker as National Treasurer has almost certainly been a precautionary move by Griffin to enable himself, if he needs to, jump from the good ship BNP with his pockets full, should her current list on the political ocean become unrecoverable.

With the state of the Party coffers as they are, there is simply no other plausible explanation; the timing and coincidence are simply too great.

Again mentioned previously, why else has his lordship placed himself as the number one candidate in the region with the best chances of winning a seat in next year's European Elections, (without the region’s consent), if he is adamant that he should remain as Party Ruler-absolute? Is he honestly expecting us to believe that he is going to work as an extremely well paid member of the European Parliament, which is a full-time position, AND remain as Party Chairman here in the UK?
Does he believe that no other person in the whole of the BNP possesses the same charming wit and proactive people skills’ to be able to hold down the job of chairman? Maybe he believes this to such an extent that he would sabotage any attempt at a lawful and constitutional leadership challenge with methods that would make Robert Mugabe sit up and take note?

RWB 2008 - cash on the door

This year's RWB appears to be a 'cash on the door' affair. No tickets are being sold beforehand which is quite remarkable as this was always a very helpful way for local branches and groups to pull some money into their accounts, as well as a great way to commit new members to attend and help wash away the media stigma– this is the very marrow of a successful and healthy branch or group.

We need to ask ourselves this, is the fact that cash disappears without a trace very easily that makes this such an attractive change to the RWB set-up? Or is it the blithering incompetence of the Treasury Department that has time and time again fouled up so many branch accounts after the RWB and taken months to clear up the mess, or perhaps there are other reasons we do not know of yet?

Predictions and lies

This year's Summer School took place in Wales, not a million miles away from Griffin’s back yard, the same site for the early RWBs. It was truly a blow to lose our previous excellent site in Nottinghamshire that the Party frequented for the first two Summer Schools, where shower facilities and flushing toilets made for a very comfortable weekend. This year, needless to say was not the success that had been witnessed previously. Griffin’s and Simon Darby’s spin on the event was as easy to see through as were the imaginary crowds of members that were supposed to have attended it.

Two hundred people were quoted to have been there throughout the weekend, up fifty on last year. We can confirm that this is not only an exaggeration, it is an out and out lie. We have it on very good authority that no more than ninety people attended; the photographs of the weekend speak for themselves, and anyone having trouble sleeping are encouraged to visit Simon Darby’s blog and have a look and read for themselves to verify this.

No shame

How can we as a Party have been reduced to our leader telling us lies simply to bolster up his own failing popularity? As a nationalist, does he not desire to see our country and people benefit from his actions and does not this desire override the selfishness and greed that all human beings are capable of surrendering themselves to?

A person in a lesser position would not have to worry too much as life has a way of creating it's own equilibrium; but for a person that potentially holds the future of British nationalism in his hands, such weakness and greed are simply unforgivable.

We do, we learn

We at Challenge for Leadership have learned a great deal in the last few months, and I can say we have been quite taken aback with what we have discovered taking place right under our noses for many years and not even realised. We have exposed and examined some of what we have found within the articles on this blog, and indeed encourage those that have not read them all thoroughly to find the time to do so if they can.

There is still some way to go before we can rid ourselves of a leader that has become little more than a millstone around the neck of modern British Nationalism. There remain many people that are still bought by the lie that the Party has no one better to replace what we currently have. These people need to ask themselves this; were can the origins of such blatant propaganda be found? We all know the answer to this question I think. We have the talent and the experience within the membership and now we must find it and use it.

King Colin, we salute you!


Councillor Colin Auty stood this year as candidate for the leadership challenge, and we along with a great many other people believe wholeheartedly, that he did a fantastic job. He did not withdraw his challenge although put under great pressure to do so; he did not show any weakness of any kind throughout what was a tough and very testing time for him and his family and he did us all proud.

The combination of threats from Griffin’s attack dogs and the fear that members would have their membership terminated, ultimately led to us failing to achieve the quota of one hundred signatures required to stand. Not to mention of course, that a great many people simply did not renew their membership from last year due the ‘purges debacle’ in December of last year of which many would have signed for Colin to stand.

If we had received a signature for every member that had either called us or emailed us with messages of support during the build up to this years campaign, we would have had a thousand!

Interestingly though, as a serving councillor Colin should have been regarded as an ‘Official of the Party’ therefore only needing ten. How can a man that holds a position in public office as a councillor voted in by tax-paying people not be recognised by the leadership as a political Party Official? This is one detail along with a great many others that a new leader that truly believes in freedom and democracy will set right. However, this is in the future, meanwhile we will ensure that this situation does not reoccur.

Round two - the 2009 campaign starts right here, right now!

The campaign will commence with the breaking down of barriers. Party members should never feel under pressure or threatened into silence by the very people that are supposed to be upholding freedom and democracy from within our organisation.

We will be encouraging the membership to express their worries and fears and come out in support of our 2009 campaign – our challenger is yet to be announced and will be kept quiet until it is necessary for him or her to proceed through the correct channels. Suffice to say that any disclosure at this very early stage would almost certainly see our prospective challenger ‘purged’ from the Party through one excuse or another.

Over the next few months we will continue to strive towards saving our Party, because it is worth everything to us - future and hope for our families, and future and hope for our country and we absolutely will NOT abandon it just at the time when it needs us the most.




92 comments:

Anonymous said...

I had an enquiry yesterday by email on how to join the BNP in the Rochdale area. As, my heart and soul has been removed from the BNP by the current leadership, I felt that my only option was to direct the enquirer to this website and the EiE site.

As a true nationalist I sincerley hope that those left in the Party can and will continue to fight to purge Gri££in and his cohorts, from the party in order to move to the next level.

Stagnant water is often rancid.

Simon Towers
Dewsbury

Anonymous said...

I had been hoping that a new party would be launched. However, you seem to know what you are doing, and you are giving yourselves time to prepare a new challenge, as well as forcing Griffin's hand to bring in the four year rule, which will probably kill the party and pave the way for a new one anyway. Either way, you'll strengthen your hand. Have to say, you've made a smart move, and that gives me much hope. You have my prayers.

A GroupFH said...

I have been to all the summer schools. I can confirm that there were about 100 delegates on the Saturday, plus about 20-25 security, trainers and helpers. You can do the maths yourselves, 6 groups with about 16-17 in each group. Some people only turned up for the Saturday and some for the Sunday. I'd estimate about 20 new faces on the Sunday who didnt attend on the Saturday, a total of about 140-150 tops throughout the w/e. What was lacking this summer school was the bonding. A hell of a lot of new faces but a whole tier of middle management, branch organisers, former officials all missing. The Saturday night entertainment was a wash out and most retired early or went off to their B&Bs. Sunday was as flat as Saturday and quite a few of the older-timers went away dispirited, it just wasnt the same atmosphere. Also I was baffled by absence of elections workshop. The virtual doorstep presentation by Peter Mullins was "interesting". Was I the only one who thought, Peter had not actually knocked on a door in his life. I may be doing the gentleman a disservice but he lacked the conviction of previous holders of this kind of workshop like Wayne MacDermott/Emma Colgate and Eddy Butler in the past.

D. Turner said...

No live entertainment, no alcohol sales......I would have been taking the family to Denby like I did last year but so many familar faces are not going I have decided not to go either.

BNP and Proud said...

These are very serious charges you make Integrity. You hide behind anonymonity but do you have any real evidence that Nick Griffin is "on the make"? I have very good authority that he lives a very modest existence, has to bring up a family of four on a very modest wage and has no material aspirations whatsoever. He is after all a man happier in his wellies and duffle coat than a suit and brogues. It's easy to make wild accusations but some of us would like some evidence of wrong-doing.

Anonymous said...

230?

Is that Wendy from Peter Pan, another work of fiction?

Come on love, I was there and counted the number of people in my group both days 150 maximum and that was the total for the weekend as some delegates didnt make it on the Saturday and only came in on Sunday.

Anonymous said...

What was the reason for moving the Summer School from central and accessible location in Notts to the further away location in Wales? Has powerbase moved south and west from the hub of activity in Yorkshire, Lancs and East Midlands?

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure which Summer School "Wendy" was at but I didnt count more than 16 people in my group and there were 6 such groups. 16x6 is 96.... Where were the other 130 lurking? They werent all on security were they?

DANGERMAN said...

BNP & PROUD - Not been a member for long then? - didn't go to the Leeds Meeting then? I went, I saw I supported Colin, I supported my loyal mate, who was expelled for something i witnessed the leadership doing that night - and what i've personally seen over the years. Get some time in if there's any left, and smell the coffee.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous BNP and Proud said...

I have very good authority that he lives a very modest existence, has to bring up a family of four on a very modest wage and has no material aspirations whatsoever."

I think that you are forgetting that Jackie is bringing home an excellent wage.

Only 2 of Nicks kids stay at home - Jenny moved out as soon as she could and Richard is away studying at University.

Nick may only have a salary of £18k but and it's a big but - he gets all his expenses paid.

Anti-gag said...

VoC must now set up a leadership team in waiting, which must be ready to step into the breach as soon as the Griffin/Collett gang throw in the towel. Things like a new democratic party constitution management structure must be ready to go as soon as Griffin does. Letters informing lapsed members of the change and inviting them to rejoin, must be sent out within the week of the change. Taking back control of the official BNP website must be an immediate priority, with a basic site ready to go on-line within hours.

Can I also suggest that members get the chance to keep their old membership numbers and seniority for a payment of only half the missing membership period fees.

On a final point: it is good to know that the Griffin/Collett gang has dropped the court case against Sadie & co, this may not be the final act of throwing in the towel, but the towel is clearly now starting to slipping.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anti-gag said...

I missed one important point out in my last comment, there must be a pledge of no recriminations against officers or members of the party who backed the Griffin/Collett gang simply because they did so. Party unity and progress must be our goal, not settling old scores. Current officers and officials must only be replaced if there is very good reasons to do so.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Mike - Eastern Region said...

Come on Gri££in, time to roll over and make way for the future. You represent the past - a fresh start is needed without your corruption and little friend Collett with his taste for young girls.

How can we ever become electable with creatures like him sucking the party dry and dragging it down? Becuase he can design magazines? Dont make me laugh!

I could find you 100 design grads tomorrow that could do his job better and cheaper, lol!

Cllr Chris said...

How does this comment tie up with Cllr Auty resigning from the BNP? Or was that just a rumour?

Anonymous said...

On a final point: it is good to know that the Griffin/Collett gang has dropped the court case against Sadie & co, this may not be the final act of throwing in the towel, but the towel is clearly now starting to slipping.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)


WHATS ALL THIS ABOUT GRIFFIN DROPPING THE COURT CASE? IT's THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT

Anti-gag said...

Dear Anonymous,

I may in fact be wrong about the Grifin/Collett gang having officially dropped the case against Sadie & Co. I read a report about a retraction letter being received they the defendants elsewhere on the web (the Lancaster UAF blog), but I've not seen any reports from reliable sources as yet. UAF may well be jumping the gun in reporting the inevitable, but that's UAF for you as about as reliable as Griffin on a bad day.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

South London BNP said...

"On a final point: it is good to know that the Griffin/Collett gang has dropped the court case against Sadie & co, this may not be the final act of throwing in the towel, but the towel is clearly now starting to slipping."

Chris, there is NO report of Grffin dropping the legal action, I think you have misread that. As far as everyone involved knows Griffin is still ready to pursue the six who he took to Court in April. This does need clarification of course.

Anonymous said...

Cllr Chris

Sadly it is true that Cllr Auty has resigned as BNP member and will be tendering his resigantion from Kirkless Council. He was threatened, maligned and treated very badly by the Griffin hierarchy and those craven members who declined to back Colin because they wanted to keep their heads down and keep out of trouble. Shocking behaviour from so-called bravehearts who believe they can take back the country from the liberal-left. If these people cannot stand up to a bully how they hell can they stand up to the mighty forces of the State?

Colin's wife and family have been under enormous pressure during the challenge and his first duty is to his family. He will be missed.

griffin4leader said...

"It's easy to make wild accusations but some of us would like some evidence of wrong-doing."

Agreed that man, so where is it? Got anything that will stand up in court or is it all just innuendo and rumour? Come on show us what youve got.

Seenthelight said...

"VoC must now set up a leadership team in waiting, which must be ready to step into the breach as soon as the Griffin/Collett gang throw in the towel."

This comment might not be a work of art but it is a piece of fiction. Griffin will NEVER throw in the towel. You really must understand that. He will fight stubbornly on regardless but he will never yield an inch. Understand that much and you can then assess your own strategy for way forward for the cause of nationalism.

RWB 2008 said...

You are wrong it's going to be the biggest and best RWB ever. You VOC lot are just plain jealous you are no longer involved in its planning and running. You are jealous that you wont be able to take any credit for its success. Alcohol cannot be officaly sold but there will be plenty of refreshments all the same and the early RWB's we werent able to sell alcohol either so nothing to worry there. Everyone can have a good time. Also we have more rides more stalls more entertainment than ever before. We couldnt care less what the unwashed scum try and threaten us with. They did the same in Sawley in 2002 and it was our bext ever with masses of publicity and dozens of locals calling in and new members signing up on the day. The local police have given us assurance that the RWB will go ahead and that the Reds wont be allowed within a mile of the gates except a token handful of lollipop waving degenerates who will clear off if it starts to rain. We have loads going on whatevre the weather. So come on everyone be part of the biggest and best ever.

Anonymous said...

WHATS ALL THIS ABOUT GRIFFIN DROPPING THE COURT CASE? IT's THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT

Thats what I was thinking? What's the score on this?

Anonymous said...

On the day that Nick Griffin said that he would rather see the BNP destroyed and have to start all over again rather than give up his position was the day that I ceased to have any more involvement with the Party. My reasons? If the leader of the Party, someone that professes to be a true Nationalist and also believes in democracy, could threaten to commit such a heinous crime at the expense of all the hours of hard work and money that I, and many others, have put in over the years was just too much for me to stomach. He was saying that the Party was his to do with as he pleases and you either complied with his bidding or go, leave, you were not fit to have an opinion. They say that power corrupts but having that much power and that much brass neck, with all the nodding dogs listening to him, sickened me.
This was before the big purge, that had, without doubt, been planned for some time because Giffin knew there was discontent within the party regarding his leadership ability. Good Nationalists were then ousted and called Reds, Traitors, MI5 agents, yes it has all be said over and over again but it keeps on happening over and over again. If you took the time to study the history of the Party since Griffin took over you would soon discover that there are many, many more ex members of the party than there are present. The members, activists, candidates and workers within the Party are its life blood, alas, at this moment in time it is bleeding to death.
I also ask myself, why so much control and pruning goes on within the party, is it purely to hang onto the cash cow or are there more sinister reasons? Is there a reward pending from ‘the Powers That Be’ for doing such a splendid job of restricting the growth of Nationalism. Next year will Griffin waltz into the best surviving region and proclaim himself MEP candidate over their preselected choice? Will he be ALLOWED to win by the afore mentioned ‘Powers That Be’ ??? Am I paranoid, no, just wait and see. MEP, nice little earner. ( I wonder how much branch money will be siphoned off for his personal election fund ?)
Who will then be handed the leadership? one might asks. Not elected that is, remember that the four year leadership elections dictat would be in place by then. Would it be Darby by any chance? Plus his salary from working for Richard Barnbrook in the London Assembly, nice little earner again. AND who would be Deputy Leader? I think every BNP members nightmare will manifest its self in the form of Mark (puss ball) Collett, one of the biggest causes of all the recent problems. Salary plus his earning from design work and printing business (BNP supported) well what do you know, nice little earner again.
I removed my blindfold, the woods, though somewhat tangled, look lovely and there is a distinct smell of coffee in the air. Other people are starting to untie the knots of lies and deceit whilst some, still loyal to Griffin, have their blindfolds tied so tight that it is cutting off the blood supply to their brains. The Griffin supporters often say that the BNP is the only hope for the future and to a degree I would go along with those sentiments. But the party, in its present format and being treated as a personal political ladder by Giffin, can only be considered as doomed to failure regardless of how hard the rank and file work or however much money is thrown at.
I live in hope of a great future for the BNP and truly wish that Nick Griffin receives the same support in the Euro election from the party as he has shown its loyal members, and that is utter contempt and disregard, he does not deserve the support of such brave people.

dchq said...

What next for Colin Auty? Is he retiring from politics and nationalism for good? It's amazing how many decent nationalists have faded into the background over the past 10 years or so.

Anonymous said...

If you are walking through the woods and smelling "coffee" just where the fffkkk are you? Certainly not in any forest I know in Britain! Even dismissing your dafter metaphors just what future do you imagine (hey breathe in some more coffee)and tell us what the BNP could do without Griffin.

You said:

"On the day that Nick Griffin said that he would rather see the BNP destroyed and have to start all over again rather than give up his position was the day that I ceased to have any more involvement with the Party."

WTF, what day was that then? He hasnt said anything like that. Thats just crazy. Your argument dont make sense. You say Griffin gets his money to pay his family and personal bills from being Leader of the BNP. You then say he would destroy the BNP and "start all over again"........

This dont add up. You cant claim he is taking money from the BNP in one sentence and claiming he wants to close it down in the next.

I work for XXXXXXXXX - I hate the shifts and the crap pay but I aint gonna try and get XXXXXXXXX shut down even if they treat the workforce like crap.

So your argument just dont stand up. I'm not saying Nick Griffin is right or wrong, im just trying to get some bearings on whats going on before I come to any conclusions.

So what is fact and what is rumour? What is fact and what is fictional?

Anonymous said...

Just a thought - what IS the best BNP region these days.

I looked up 2004 Euro figures, Eastern region was the best performing Euro region, Yorkshire a close second. North West was not good, not sure why Griffin wants to stand in that region. Was good 7-8 years ago after the Oldham -Muzzie riots was all news but BNP must now have a chance in London. Best chances for BNP must be in West and East Mids and London.

a man from brum said...

RWB 2008 you should not be such a braggart with your assertion the festival will go ahead despite the antis. The “degenerates” and “unwashed scum” will be well organised and will be up for defying the police to get to the RWB site. It is almost certain that a large number of the estimated 3000 protesters will attempt to blockade the entrance and storm into the field. You claim that Police have given assurance that the festival “will go ahead” . This assurance should be treated with suspicion.

Anonymous said...

anon said

If you are walking through the woods and smelling "coffee" just where the fffkkk are you?

He hasnt said anything like that. Thats just crazy. Your argument dont make sense.


_________________________


In answer to the first part, in the land of reality old pal.

The answer to the second part, he said this at the Blackpool conference 2007 in front of over 200 people. If you don't belive me ask a few others, you were obviously not there. I hope this doesn't disappoint you too much. So many people are misinformed in the party and, to a certain extent, living in hope or cloud cuckoo land. Which are you. Make up your mind but do it quickly as time is running out. But hey, WTF to use your somewhat wanting vocabulary.

dchq said...

Gri££in reminds me of the owner of one of those pottery piggy banks that have to be smashed to release the money, and the BNP is the piggy bank. He uses the BNP as a means to obtain money for the future, and when the time is right, he will smash the BNP like a piggy bank and take the money.

Like most people, Gri££in wants to retire reasonably young and wealthy. Happy in his wellies and duffle coat on a pig farm in rural Wales.

Majesty said...

"Anonymous said...

On the day that Nick Griffin said that he would rather see the BNP destroyed and have to start all over again rather than give up his position was the day that I ceased to have any more involvement with the Party"

That certainly was an eye opener for those of us who did not know what had been going on internally. I thought it weird when I heard Nick say this at last years conference but unfortunately it all made sense in the December purges.

I hope that VOC can destroy that man who would destroy our Party.

Anonymous said...

On the part of your site which reads ..........."We proudly backed the challenge in 2008. We now look forward to continuing our support in 2009"
Can you please get with it and either remove Roger Robinsons name or at least put a comment next to his name highlighting that he has been unceremoniously shat out of the party.
You will have to be a bit more efficient if you have designs of being a leadership in waiting.

In my experience of those of you I know I believe you are just a bunch who have got too big for your boots and are suffering delusions of grandeur. Yes you were very important and reletively talented when the BNP was smaller, but the growth which has happened through Nicks skillful leadership has brought in more professional people. This has obviously done your egos no good and now you feel scorned.

Like it or make your peace with multi culturalism.

Anonymous said...

Your all Doomed, we told you rebels so!

Falkirk BNP

Anonymous said...

Don't you mean "learjet" not "blimp?"

Anonymous said...

Why do the thick as pig (farmer) shite Griffinies come on here talking crap?

dchq said...

The fact that Gri££in expels anybody who dares to challenge him plainly shows who is the weakling and the coward.

If Gri££in was an honest man, he would have let Colin Auty fairly and squarely challenge him, knowing that this year the leadership challenge would have been a soaking wet squib and Gri££in would have romped home the clear winner.

Gri££in acts like a selfish child at nursery school who will not let the other children play with the toys he is playing with.

Anti-gag said...

I'm sorry but the anonymous poster (2nd to last for Sunday 13th July) must live in a complete topsy turvy world. Now had he/she said “You may have been important in a more successful BNP, but in Griffin's new run-down decimated party your skills are not needed. Griffin has now brought in new people far more suitable for a continually declining party.' Now that would have been a reasonable comment from someone living in the real world.

You then go on to use the term 'under Nick's skilful leadership', that surely must be an attempt at sarcasm!

Griffin wants to secure his pension ie. a seat in the European parliament next year. He's obviously given up on saving our nation and is now thinking only about number 1.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anti-gag said...

Could we have Cllr Robertson's report on the facts of his recent tribunal. This would not only be interesting, but might give readers an insight into the current state of fair play within the party's hierarchy.

Also is there any truth to the report on the LancasterUAF blog that the Griffin/Collett gang has withdrawn their ridiculous court case against the six VoC members?

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Loyal BNP said...

not remotely surprised you make no reference to Colin Autys decison to resign his seat on Kirklees council, after failing to get 100 signatures

A week ago, you wanted him to lead the party. Now he is no longer a member. That sums up everything we need to know about the judgement of the VoC mob in supporting this sadcase.

Its time to take up the repeated offers of peace by the Loyal BNP majority and Nick Griffin, or be done with it and form your own party, which was your aim from day one.

Anonymous said...

The following does not need much comment from me. I suggest you verify its authenticity and comment on it yourselves. Lessons learned, and all that. Keine Ruhe.

From the BNP website, dated Friday the 08 June 2007.

“The constitution of the British National Party was designed so that the party leader has more power than in many other parties. This was adopted when the BNP was founded as a result of more than a decade of prior experience of the way in which rule by directorate or committee was a recipe for disastrous factional in fighting and division in a nationalist party.

It was however acknowledged right from the start that such a concentration of power needs to be balanced by a high degree of accountability by the leader to the membership, and by an unusually democratic system for choosing and replacing the leader.

The constitution therefore states that the current leader may be challenged in any year by any member with more than five years unbroken membership who is either an office holder within the party or who secures the backing of 100 members in good standing paid up for the current year. THE SIGNING OF SUCH A PAPER IS TAKEN SIMPLY AS AN INDICATION THAT THE ASSENTER RECOGNISES THE RIGHT OF THE CHALLENGER TO STAND AND DOES NOT NECESSARILY INDICATE SUPPORT FOR ANY OR ALL OF THE CANDIDATE’S PROPOSALS. While there does not have to be any such contest (there has only been one in the party’s history – in 1999, when Mr Griffin was elected by a substantial majority), the period during which nominations must be submitted via registered post to the BNP’s registered headquarters, PO Box 14, Welshpool, SY21 0WE, opens on the 1st June and closes on 30th June each year.

Secret Ballot

In the event of no valid nominations being submitted, the current leader is deemed to have been elected unopposed for a further year. If a contest does take place a secret postal ballot of all members paid up since January of the current year is held before the end of September. All candidates receive equal space in the internal members bulletin, British Nationalist for a ‘manifesto’ statement. No party publications or web facilities may be used to recommend or promote any candidate, although they will continue to report normally on party activities.

In order to avoid benefiting the incumbent leader or encouraging the illegitimate collection and use of membership details, no candidate may issue or have issued on his behalf any separate promotional material by post or email. Candidates and party members supporting them ARE OF COURSE PERFECTLY ENTITLED TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE AT PARTY MEETINGS. Precise details of how a leadership contest is to be run are decided and publicised immediately after the 30th June in any year in which valid nominations are received from a challenger or challengers..

The current party leader, Nick Griffin, has indicated that he intends at present to continue in the position for several years longer at least, but that HE WOULD WELCOME A PROPERLY CONDUCTED CHALLENGE as a way of confirming his popular mandate to continue running the party along the present lines, and of displaying the BNP’s unusually democratic leadership selection system to the British people as a whole.”

Yorkshire member said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the day that Nick Griffin said that he would rather see the BNP destroyed and have to start all over again rather than give up his position"

No he did not, I was there, he said that if the Party in Yorkshire had to start again from scratch so be it.

There are so many lies, half truths and people taking internet rumour as fact, as to make this whole blog meaningless.

BNP Organiser said...

Its a piece of nonsense to say this years RWB wont be a success just because we cannt officially sell beer. Almost every RWB has had this condition and every year the RWB has got better and better making more money for party funds. Only two of the RWB's had an official drinks licence. As for this "3000 protestors storming the field"......go back to your slimepit you Commie troll. A massive 30-40 student gwants waving lollipops isnt going to be a threat to BNP security or the local bobbies. Especially if it rains, the poor little dears will soon scurry off back to their student hovels in Leeds, Manchester and Nottingham.

DANGERMAN said...

Loyal BNP said...
not remotely surprised you make no reference to Colin Autys decison to resign his seat on Kirklees council, after failing to get 100 signatures

A week ago, you wanted him to lead the party. Now he is no longer a member. That sums up everything we need to know about the judgement of the VoC mob in supporting this sadcase.

Its time to take up the repeated offers of peace by the Loyal BNP majority and Nick Griffin, or be done with it and form your own party, which was your aim from day one.

Well said that man!! - Was your chin up, hair flying in the wind and " Wir Fahren Gegen England" and "Auf Der Heide" playing in the background??!

Never mind the hundred signatures, mein freund, you can see what's happening when the supposedly "un-biased" national elections officer nails his colours to the mast, in direct contravention of the so-called rules - which are one sided anyway! Do you require a hundred signatures to stand as a paper candidate in local elections by the way?? DON'T FORGET - Colin IS an elected councillor - something the gang of seven (or more) haven't yet achieved!! - and one last thing - why the hell is Nick standing anywhere?? - given the media responses to anything BNP - you don't seriously think for one minute, that the media and government are going to let the Fuhrer win an election do you?? Dream on!!

Anonymous said...

Yorkshire member said

No he did not, I was there, he said that if the Party in Yorkshire had to start again from scratch so be it.

Answer this:
WHY DID HE SAY THAT?

What prompted that.

A why did he say:

ARE YOU WITH ME?

Ray - Eastern said...

Good luck Challenge for Leadership team, I applaud what you are doing. Only you have had the courage and balls to say what’s got to be said and done to save the party from this conniving little piece of work.

Your support is there and it is slowly growing, good luck next year. I am remaining a member ONLY so I can vote out Gri££in at the first opportunity.

JustCurious said...

This blog of just full of criticism and negativity.

if you want to be taken seriously tell us all just who you want to replace Nick Griffin as head of the BNP which whether you agree or not is THE most successful party in British Nationalism. Nick Griffin might not be perfect and Ive seen and read your list of grievances but WHO is going to replace him? It wont be any of the hopeless VOC lot who managed to get themselves expelled so no chance of Graham, Blake, Dawson, Bev Jones and now Robertson have all gone....so just who is going to make a better job of things than Nick?

Answers PLEASE.....

Anonymous said...

The BNP is run on the same principles as a cult. Very similiar to multi level marketing scams aswell.

Check out these comments here http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=19558

See how similar it sounds to how the BNP works, especially the language of the people entrhalled by the whole thing and how it's similiar to the way leadership 'loyalists' talk who post here.

Anonymous said...

Yorkshire member is confusing things:

"No he did not, I was there, he said that if the Party in Yorkshire had to start again from scratch so be it."

This was uttred by Griffin at the December crisis meeting in Leeds after the rebels had been expelled. Not at the AC when in November he said he would rather see the BNP destroyed and have to start all over again rather than give up his position. Check out the BNPtv footage and ask anyone who attended. Clearly you werent there on the Sunday afternoon.

"Are you with me". If not then f**k off.

Anonymous said...

Who or what is this "gang of seven"?

Please explain Dangermouse.......

Kirklees Organiser said...

Why all this speculation? Why can't we have a clear statement from Colin explaining why he has resigned his party membership, and what next?

a man from brum said...

BNP organiser your attitude is very poor. To refer to me as a ‘commie troll from a slimpit’ only shows your lack of tolerance to discuss and debate issues which are of vital importance to the party. You should be aware that the antis have been promoting nobnpfestival for over 6 months. It will be a national demo involving a wide range of organisations. It could well exceed 3000. Unless you recognise the serious threat to festival goers and make plans to protect the site there is a danger of large scale violent attempts to invade it. The police will not protect you. They could be overwhelmed by force of numbers. It may be police will attempt to road block party supporters and turn them back. They could even order the site to be cleared on Friday evening. I have not posted this to be alarmist but to be realistic about what the mob see as the Battle of Codner. The Day we smashed the Nazis.

dchq said...

justcurious

As a member of the BNP for the past 10 years, I do not want the party to end up like NuLab with a leader (namely Blair) that hangs on long after they should have resigned simply because they are IRREPLACEABLE.

A successful political party is designed in a way that if they lose their leader through tragic circumstances they can still continue almost unaffected.

Just what would happen to the BNP if Gri££in were run over by a bus?

Anonymous said...

dchq said.

Just what would happen to the BNP if Gri££in were run over by a bus?

______________________

Finding a new party leader could have its problems. It must be remembered that, taking nothing away from suitable present members, many,many good able people have been ousted from the party, through no fault of thier own, over recent. This was Griffins plan, to deny the BNP of any talent for the future and securing his own position.

Shedder said...

the UAF "national" parade in London was advertised widely inlcuding the music press and leaflets in colleges and unis yet only attracted 2500. If only 2500 turned out to that with excellent travel links how can anyone SERIOUSLY expect 3000 to find there way to a field in the middle of nowehere. Get real

DANGERMAN said...

JustCurious said...
Nick Griffin might not be perfect and Ive seen and read your list of grievances but WHO is going to replace him? It wont be any of the hopeless VOC lot who managed to get themselves expelled so no chance of Graham, Blake, Dawson, Bev Jones and now Robertson have all gone....so just who is going to make a better job of things than Nick?
Answers PLEASE.....
The "VOC lot" aren't hopeless - and they didn't manage to get themselves expelled - haven't you caught up on things, yet??!

Anonymous said...
Who or what is this "gang of seven"?
Please explain Dangermouse.......

You haven't been in that long then, eh, old boy?? - ask some of those that are still in with you, who've been in a few years!!

a man from brum said...

They could even order the site to be cleared on Friday evening. I have not posted this to be alarmist but to be realistic about what the mob see as the Battle of Codner. The Day we smashed the Nazis.

.....Better hope it dosn't RAIN then!! -

dchq said...

Just what would happen to the BNP if Gri££in were run over by a bus?

As there is NO STRUCTURE per se, what's left of the party would implode - no one would have a clue what to do.

Thats it from me, folks, -- off to watch some paint dry --- like someone above said, this site is degenerating into a melee -- but it ain't over till the fat lady sings!!

dchq said...

"As there is NO STRUCTURE per se, what's left of the party would implode - no one would have a clue what to do."

Are you 100% sure about that? If it really were true then the lefties would have known this years ago. They might be stupid but they certainly have enough bus drivers in their ranks...

I can't honestly see 5IMon Darby leading the BNP for more than 3 months. Collett is a sad joke and Barnes isn't much better. Maybe Wingfield or Barnbrook. Do you still have Dr Andrew Emerson?

griffin4leader said...

"...our challenger is yet to be announced and will be kept quiet until it is necessary for him or her to proceed through the correct channels."

Would that be because you havent got one and whatsmore there wont be one. There wont be a challenge in 2009 and you know it. The constitution is going to be changed to stop the farce of yearly attempts by joke candidates which waste everyones time. A 3 or 4 year cycle would save time ands effort all round. So bye bye to your 2009 wish - it isnt going to happen.

BNP Organiser said...

"Who or what is this "gang of seven"?

....and still waiting for an answer, like lots of questions on here, when are you going to give answers?
Nick's anonymous opponents are quick to accuse and spread rumour and downright lies but when asked a simple question disappear. When is someone going to start answering these simple questions like

a. Where is evidence that Nick is lining his own pockets?
b. Where is evidnce that support for BNP is falling?
c. Where is evidence that Nick is a bad leader?
d. Who is going to take his place?
e. Name me ONE, just ONE person who has had more success in the BN movement that BNP leader Nick Griffin?
f. When are you all just going to give up your harping and bitching and move on to better things?

BNP Organiser said...

PS.

"The "VOC lot" aren't hopeless - and they didn't manage to get themselves expelled - haven't you caught up on things, yet??!"

I think hopeless and clueless sum up the total failure of the VOC brigade (ganglet/grouplet is a better word).

Anonymous said...

"Never mind the hundred signatures, mein freund, you can see what's happening when the supposedly "un-biased" national elections officer nails his colours to the mast"

Eddy Butler has his view, which isnt binding on the membership. A 100 member minimum is a reaonable number to ask for, and has been the same since 1999, when NG won the leadership election agaisnt JT.

Once again, I ask, do you approve of Autys decison to resign from his seat, and the party?

And while we are at it, am agreeing with the views of "BNP organiser" here, and in particular
"Where is evidence that Nick is lining his own pockets?"

All you get is nonsense about croatian boltholes and financial rumours which are unsubstantiated

I suggest you have a VoC meeting and agree terms for the negotiation of your return to party membership.

dchq said...

b. Where is evidnce that support for BNP is falling?

The West Midlands urban area. This is territory where the BNP should be going from strength to strength, but they aren't. Votes are down almost everywhere in this years local elections. Look at the terrible result in Princes End and the lack of a candidate for Tividale in Sandwell for starters. UKIP appear to be overtaking the BNP in Dudley.

The BNP appear to be on their way out in Oldham as well. Just two candidates when 5 years ago they talked about putting up a full slate. West Yorkshire is also slipping.

c. Where is evidence that Nick is a bad leader?

1. Gri££in's BNP is incapable at retaining BNP support in many areas over the long term. Winning is one thing but holding on in the long term is another.

Can Gri££in explain why support is falling in once strong areas? To pin the blame on local members shouting from his pig farm in rural Wales is disingenious. The leadership has just as much responsibility as the local members in retaining support in the long term.

2. Gri££in's attitude is arrogant and authoritarian. He is a very difficult man to reason with and he rides roughshod over the views and strategies of rank and file members who are doing the hard work for the party. The expulsion of so many decent BNP members paints a worrying picture for people considering joining the BNP.

d. Who is going to take his place?

Read my comments about being run over by a bus. What would Gri££inites do in such a tragic circumstance other than squabble?

e. Name me ONE, just ONE person who has had more success in the BN movement that BNP leader Nick Griffin?

How is success defined? Nick has never managed to win a public election in his life, whereas other rank and file BNP members have won elections.

Shedder said...

Arguing that NG has had more success in the BN movement than anyone else is nicking JTs, unconvincing, line that he led the NF during its most successful phases - he may well have done but the success as Eddie Butler wrote in the patriot was done to other people and not him solely. Same is true with NG.

The electoral breakthrough NG was planning for was due to take place in Oldham - it failed and for a short time on the BNP site there was even a piece about the BNP being "robbed" there. Then the Burnley results came in later and the BNP did breakthrough. But that had very little to do with NG.

As to "joke" leadership candidates what about "joke" elections where everything is weighted in favour of the 'leader. To paraphrase Tony Lecomber, again writing in Patriot at the time of NGs challenge to Tyndall, why cant we have a FAIR internal election in the BNP when other parties do? Lecomber singled out the Libdems at the time

NG has had his moments, he got us publicity at Oldham but as to being successful the last round of by elections saw even the usually optimistic Martin Wingfield describing them as "disappointing". If NG was such a success why is it wherever he has stood for election he has FAILED to be elected when others who have been described as "hopeless" and "clueless" have managed it?

NG, like Tyndall but for different reasons, alientes as many as he attracts.

Let him concentrate on what he is good at PR, media manipulation perhaps even make him lifetime president which is what was offered to Tyndall I believe and let us have a fair internal election.

Why are the NG clique so afraid of internal elections, anyway?

Anonymous said...

To BNP organiser.

MY TAKE ON IT

The gang of seven, I take them to be Griffin, Darby, Collett, Hannam, Walker and the South African connection.

a) Where has all the money gone? Why the begging letters? Why is it going to be tickets on the gate at the Red White and Blue?

b) Resignations, lapsed memberships, lousy election results at a time when the BNP should be cleaning up, 55 councillors(Don’t include parish councillors, you can sometimes walk into some of those positions by stealth or unopposed)

c) Where have you been hiding? If there is discontent among many good, capable Nationalists, as the leader of the party, Griffin should be able to sort it. Unfortunately he does not possess the skills to carry out this most basic function. He just slanders, (Reds, UAF moles, MI5 agents) anyone who disagrees with him then marginalises them and has them thrown out of the party, usually by someone doing his dirty work and in doing so implicates them. He has no backbone.

d) As a rough outline, there are quite a few members that could take the role as caretaker leader backed up by a DEMOCRATICALLY elected advisory council or cabinet. This would be until the wounds had healed and some sort of order established. In this interim period the wealth of talent that has been either expelled from the party or walked away in disgust can be reinstated prior to an open and honest election campaign.

e) Where have you been and what have you been reading the last ten years. Of course you can’t find anybody. Griffin has slung most of them out of the party to hold onto his position and those that could do the job still in the party are, very wisely, keeping their heads down apart from a brave few. Maybe if you altered your question: Can you name one person that has done more harm to the Party for his personal gain and delight, you would get many, many answers. No prizes for guessing who.

f) I hope NEVER, because there will be no better things ahead for the BNP just more dictatorship, more lies and more people thrown out of the party not to mention more cronies on board, some not even members. How can a political party run like that prosper? The UAF would hate to see Griffin depart the BNP, he’s doing their job for them.

Anonymous said...

shedder

Let him concentrate on what he is good at PR, media manipulation perhaps even make him lifetime president which is what was offered to Tyndall I believe and let us have a fair internal election

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Can't agree with this, he would become a disruptive influence without doubt just to settle old scores regardless of any damage he would do. There is only one place for Griffin, the waste bin.

BNP Organiser said...

Again,all I get in answer to my very sincere question is rumour, guesswork and inuenndo. At least "anonymous" has taken time to reply but with the same myths and half-truths and lies I keep getting.

a. a) Where has all the money gone? Why the begging letters? Why is it going to be tickets on the gate at the Red White and Blue?

The BNP needs to make regular appeals because we arent funded by commie unions or wealthy corporate multinationals. Tickets on the gate means it is easier to collect, no hassle with tickets going missing in the post and anxious punters making frustrated phone calls. As to where the money has gone, err...dont you read the BNP bulletins and website, a massive investment in Excalibur and a new unit in Deeside, a professional BNPtv and internet operation for starters, professional training courses for our middle management. No secrets, its all spelled out for members and others to read. There is NO EVIDENCE (a word you dont understand!) that Mr Griffin has pocketed a penny other than his reasonable expenses and a pathetic small salary to bring up a family of four teenages.

b) Resignations, lapsed memberships, lousy election results at a time when the BNP should be cleaning up, 55 councillors(Don’t include parish councillors, you can sometimes walk into some of those positions by stealth or unopposed)

Fair point about parish councllors I agree on that they dont count. "Lousy election results"...have you forgotten about the London GLA, what a breakthrough into the mainstream? Have you forgetton Henley when the BNP beat Labour which is the first ever result in all of post-war nationalist history. Every organisation has members who dont bother to renew, fact is the BNP has more members now than ever before and continues to grow. I cant see how you can blame the leader when the facts speak for themselves.

c) Where have you been hiding?

Nowhere, in fact Ive been out and about for the past 6 years as a street slogger, in last two years as a fundholder and now organiser. I have seen NOTHING to back up your opinion that Nick Griffin is a bad leader. He gets crowds for every meeting he in invited to, shakes peoples hands, unafraid to answer any question, (unlike you lot), has got the media firmly in place, has built a first class team of professionals in the daily management of the BNP and everyone in the party likes him.

d) As a rough outline, there are quite a few members that could take the role as caretaker leader backed up by a DEMOCRATICALLY elected advisory council or cabinet.

Blinking heck, your having a laugh, this isnt second division football here, a "caretaker leader", we are moving from 3rd to 4th gear and there is no time gabbling about with caretaker managers when we have a leader who even the hostile commie/wet tory media say is the biggest threat to the cosy estabilhsment setup. Thats why the state took him to trial twice and failed.I cant think of just one name who could step into his shoes. As for being run over by a bus, there is the very sensible Simon Darby as deputy leader who could do an excellent job but doesnt have the same persona and punch that Nick has. Simon could grow into the job of course as happens in all sorts of businesses and organisations where the pioneer and leader comes to some misfortune .

e) Where have you been and what have you been reading the last ten years.

Boring! Again just a lot of myth and lies here. Here is a point to consider. IF the BNP under Nick Griffin's leadership has been a disaster then all those very capable men and women who you say have been thrwon out or walked off in disgust would by now have congreated together to form a brand new party which would be winning elections all over the country. What and where is this party? It doesnt exist because the people who walked away or were dismissed were niave idiots, nazi dinosaurs, limp-wristed tories, misfits and unsuited to life in the BNP. So this doesnt prove anything except your wrong- again, nice try though.

f) I hope NEVER,......

So bitching about things is going make friends and win a wave of new supporters is it? When I knock on doors in my patch, when I risk being assaulted and sworn at when I go leafleting some dodgy areas I know Im doing something positive.

I say again, no one is perfect, Nick Griffin is not perfect, any replacement for Nick will not be perfect but get real. Our country is a mess, our economy is falling apart and millions will be on the dole and out of a home in a year or so. The BNP has everything going for it. I hear that on the doorsteps, people are afraid of crime, the economy, higher food prices and want to give us the benfit of the dowbt. Me and my team are doing something positive and we know there might be a chance we get some new blood on board or we get a kniving from some commie or muzzie we have upset by knocking on their door. Its a chance we take but bitching on the internet is a waste of time.

I think i ve put my case very well as its based on fact which anyone with some savvy knows is right.

What "anonymous" are you going to now, more bitching?

Britishnationalist said...

BNP organiser raises some very good points. I can't agree that "everyone in the BNP likes Griffin" Thats not the point. Someone can respect someone for what they have achieved without really liking the person. It's the half truths and gossip about misdemeanours which bothers me. I want someone to give me evidence as BNP Organiser asks, about this. Until any evidence of wrong-doing is given then its all rumour and speculation. If the Voc team have any evidence it would strengthen their case to publish it. Until then I have to say that I take all your reports with as much sincerity as I would a report in the Daily Mirror or the UAF website.

Hrvatski list said...

"All you get is nonsense about croatian boltholes and financial rumours which are unsubstantiated"

This is a safe comment - I want to say one thing very bright, the busisnes of Croatia is a red herring (blesav grešku). A very friend who owns some hectares of land in Croatia made a statement to the BNP in 2006 if the BNP would think about the advertisement the place as a destination for holiday. You must know that Croatia economics have been made bad by the civil war. The Croatia economy needs to be made good again by us invitation of send tourists from Great Britain and many other places in Europe.

Nick Griffin and some associates took a journey to Croatia in 2006. The gathering toured the area and agreed that it was a possibility to promote the area.

There is a lot of problems with the area as it is close to border with Bosnia and landmines remain in many fields. The airport is too many miles and we need 2-3 years to improve attractions for visitors.

Mr. Griffin does not own a house in Croatia and the BNP do not have any property in Croatia. Please, I ask you to stop the messages about this lie.

Thank to you

Hrvatski list

Anonymous said...

Hrvatski list said...

Nick Griffin and some associates took a journey to Croatia in 2006. The gathering toured the area and agreed that it was a possibility to promote the area.




At whose expence I wonder.

Did you read this one BNP organiser?

Richard Chadfield said...

Nick Griffin and some associates took a journey to Croatia in 2006. The gathering toured the area and agreed that it was a possibility to promote the area.
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I thought the BNP was a political party ,now it appears that it is a tourist business.
It is not the BNP's business to promote Croatia.
Richard Chadfield

BNP Organiser said...

"Did you read this one BNP organiser"

Yes and I asked Mr Griffin himself about this question last year and he gave me an honest answer. There never was any thing beyond a first look visit. Until upon the civil war in Yugoslavia places like Dubrovik were very popular with Brits, Germans and Scandinavians. No surprise then when someone from war torn Croatia asks for some advice about if his land holding could be a place for use as a holiday destination. Mr Griffin and a few colleagues flew over to Croatia AT THE HOST's EXPENSE, all budget airlines anyway. As Hrvatski List says the place was too far away from the main budget airports and some of the land was unsurveyed by military so many land mines remain.

Mr. Griffin made an executive decision that this project was not worth any more time and effort.

So what are you going to say now?
Mr. Griffin missed a major opportunity. It is all logical and makes sense to me and anyone else who has no axe to grind. As I said no one is perfect but Nick Griffin is the very best the BNP has and he will not be beaten by people who spread lies and rumours.

Son of John Bull said...

"I thought the BNP was a political party ,now it appears that it is a tourist business.
It is not the BNP's business to promote Croatia."

Exactly, dont understand why this has become an issue. What was the BNP hierarchy thinking of, dont we need some tourism of our own to promote here in Britain?

Hrvatski list said...

"It is not the BNP's business to promote Croatia."

Ask you if you were a sincerity european nationalist Mister Richard Chadfield? You would instantly know why Croatia a country which was making worth a visit. Not a thing about promote the holidays. Croatia is not in the EU, has some untied treaties with the Uk, is a perfect location to be a broadcast locus across all of mainland Europe and every item is very cheap - a fractional of the cost of things in England, France or Germany.

Many reasons for commercials to set up in Croatia. Politics not very important but strong amounts of nationalist here.

Hrvatski list

dchq said...

Could all you Gri££in loyalists do us a favour.

Go to Oldham; find people willing to join the BNP and contest elections; field a full slate of candidates at the next local elections; then get some councillors elected.

Don't come back until you have achieved this. If Gri££in won't lift a finger to help then he isn't a good leader. Remember he has a cricket pitch in Oldham just so he can contest local elections there.

ex Scottish member said...

I see his dictatorship has announced an EGM at the RWB as you have suggested. From the BNP website:

BNP Extraordinary General Meeting 3.30pm Sunday. Political marquee. Paid up current members only.

Any members wanting to attend the EGM but not able to get to the main RWB can come in free on production of current membership card from 2.30pm on the Sunday. The purpose of the EGM is to discuss some key changes including enshrining Voting Membership control over policy making, fixed term leadership (starting with a leadership election next year) with provision for the calling of an election at other times only by a sensible number of officials and councillors, and scope for future votes by postal ballot.

shedder said...

2 Bnporganiser...

If Griffin is the best Nationalism has why did his NF grouplet, the Ghaddafi/Cadre Front, collapse and why did the successor 3rd way group he ran also go the same way? And why did he virtually disappear and not start a new party that, with his 'talents', would eclipse the bnp?

Anti-gag said...

Individuals should not be allowed to slow the progress of the party, no mater how much they are wronged, but that is not what the current problems are all about. The individuals who have been expelled, or resigned, are in a large part the reason the party has made any progress in the last few years. Now by saying that I mean in no way to play down the part played by the hard working grass-roots members of our party, of which I like to think I'm one. But without an effective middle management structure grass-roots activism is simply ineffective, and it was that much needed middle management level that people like Sadie, Ian, and Kenny were both providing and improving.

Charisma aside, Griffin is a very poor leader and his paranoia over any potential new and more efficient (better) leader rising from the ranks to replace him, is greatly damaging to the party. Griffin has, at least in his own mind, decided that Mark Collett will be his successor when he does step down, and any challenge to that he sees as an attack on his own position, which of course it is.

We simply can't afford to continue to lose the likes of: Cllr Sadie Graham, Ian Dawson, Cllr Rodger Robertson, Bev Jones, Steve Blake, Cllr Colin Auty, Kenny Smith etc, while we keep millstones like Mark Collett and Lee Barnes hanging around our necks. The idea that if we just get on with the fight everything will be all right is, I'm afraid, nonsense. If we are to win back our nation we must first put our own house in order, if we don't do that we'll simply end up falling at the first hurdle every time.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

Well said Cris but how do you unseat Griffin and his mottly crew without damage, 64 Dollar question.

dchq said...

A few grassroots BNP members I have been chatting with say that the real problem is 5IMon Darby and that he is the one keeping Gri££in - and possibly Collett and Barnes - in the positions of prominence as part of his duty as a state agent. They say that if 5IMon Darby were ousted then Gri££in, Collett, and Barnes would be shown to be puppets of the establishment more than leaders of a nationalist party. Their days in office will then be numbered...

Anti-gag said...

Anonymous said:

'Well said Cris but how do you unseat Griffin and his mottly crew without damage, 64 Dollar question.'

I say:

First of all I think I recognise your writing style, and if I am right about your identity can I say: it's good to have you on board, although personally I never had any doubts that you would be, albeit in your own good time.

The Answer to your question is it must be done by democratic means, if necessary backed up with court action to protect the rights of the membership against the current dictatorship. Now I know that won't be an easy struggle to win, but we simply have no chose. Ending Griffin's dictatorship is not a side road that is a distraction from main journey, Griffin's dictatorship is a fallen tree across our path which we can't just go around (ie start a new party) we must remove the obstacle which is blocking our way forward; ie Nick Griffin and the dead wood that he has chosen to surround himself with.

The first action of VoC now must be to organise another conference, (open only to: current, expelled and refused members). The wealth of talent on the VoC side outshines that of the Griffin/Collett gang in the same way as the Sun outshines a torch with a flat battery at midday.

From Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

dchq said...

"The first action of VoC now must be to organise another conference, (open only to: current, expelled and refused members)."

Well said.

Whatever you do be sure to STICK TOGETHER. This applies to all current, expelled, and refused members who want to see Gri££in and his gang given the boot. Please don't vanish off into oblivion like so many decent nationalists in years gone by. United we stand and together we will win.

Simon Smith said...

"The wealth of talent on the VoC side outshines that of the Griffin/Collett gang in the same way as the Sun outshines a torch with a flat battery at midday."

Very true Chris - but NG has the non investigating Establishment on his side who will take you to court for a non paid parking fine but ignore the financial dealings of Gri££in and Co. Not so easy mate :-)

Anonymous said...

Thanks Cris

It is true that Peedo Boy will take over when griffin goes?

Anonymous said...

To dchq.

Spot on mate. We live in hope.

Anonymous said...

To BNP Organiser.

An answer to your last post, 15th, and using your tone.

I was half way through writing a rather long rebuttal to your last post, in which you claim to be so correct, when it suddenly dawned on me that you do such a wonderful job of making yourself out to be a prat, all by yourself, that I needn’t bother. I would ask all visitors to this blog to take into account some of the points you made.

‘EVERY BODY IN THE PARTY LIKES NICK GRIFFIN’

Pull your head out of your arse sonny, even Nick himself would be laughing at that one.

‘THE SENSIBLE SIMON DARBY WOULD GROW INTO THE POSITION OF PARTY LEADER IF ANYTHING HAPPENED TO GRIFFIN’

Don’t get out much do you. Darby himself was publicly saying outside Leeds Crown Court that if Nick goes down he would not be up to leading the party. (Yes you did Simon) So he might have, if common sense prevailed, acted as a CARETAKER LEADER until an election could be arranged.

As for insulting good honest Nationalists, people who have done more than you could ever dream of achieving over the years, by calling them NAÏVE IDIOTS, NAZI DINOSAURS, LIMP WRISTED TORIES AND MISFITS speaks for itself. Vomit of that nature comes straight out of the Nick Griffin Hand Book of how to ruin a political party.

Some of the self praising crap you have written sound as though you think you deserve a medal, well get on the end of the queue mate, a very long queue as it happens and it’s full of people who have been there, done that and got the ‘T’ shirt. Just leave a space between you and the person in front of you, they wont like the smell.

My advice to you would be: Take off the headphones that are obviously wired to Griffins mouth, remove the blinkers and give your brain a jolt (if you have a brain of your own). Also go on a diet because in the not too distant future you might have to eat your words and a hell of a lot of humble pie.

Don’t bother coming back, you lack the intelligence to have a serious debate without becoming BITCHY and offensive, even if it is via a blog.

PS. I notice you did not mention Collett.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
To BNP Organiser.

An answer to your last post, 15th, and using your tone.
...................................

Glad you said that. This twerp was starting to wind me up.

St George

Anti-gag said...

Come on: Sadie, Ian, Kenny, Steve, & Roger, we need leadership here. Just what is the next step now for members, like myself, who are not prepared to leave the party to the tender mercies of the Griffin/Collett gang?

I've already suggested another conference similar to the one held in January, this could be tied up with the special meeting Griffin has called after the RWB next month. A half day VoC conference in the morning could be followed by our attendance at that meeting in the afternoon. This might enable us to vote out any motion to allow a leadership challenge only every 4 years. Or, if we were turned away on mass, at least help with a court challenge to such an undemocratic change. We must now accept that the struggle to democratise the party is going to be a long term fight (12 months min). The sooner we start the sooner we'll get our party back.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

a man from brum said...

Anonymous said…
To BNP Organiser

Well said. The party is riddled with loud mouth types such as BNP Organiser who view members and supporters who raise issues critical of the party as ‘reds’ or other such abuse.
I sometimes wonder if we will ever make meaningful progress while we have organisers who deny basic information to dissenting members and think its acceptable to email smut and racist jokes.

dchq said...

Something I'm interested in knowing is whatever has happened to the BNP's home education project? I read about this a few years ago but nothing seems to have materialised.

I have also requested setting up a circle for nationalist scientists, engineers, and IT workers. These people are seriously underrepresented in the BNP, and considering the state of the industries, would benefit from BNP economic policy.

a man from brum said...

There has to be urgent and radical change to the party. Here in Birmingham the branch is in the hands of an insular, secretive and suspicious bunch of Griffinites. Any dissenters are shut out and denied any information of meetings etc.There is no opportunity to input views and ideas. The progress of 2005/6 has now come to end. Everything is stagnant. Its so frustrating.

Anonymous said...

its a shame you cannot see your nose from your tit. Trouble makers we do not need so bog off.

East Midlands BNP

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
its a shame you cannot see your nose from your tit. Trouble makers we do not need so bog off.

East Midlands BNP


So you don't need trouble makers. Then why don't you help get rid of Gri££in? the biggest trouble maker in the Party without doubt. And whilst your about it, help get rid of that pus ball Collett, the next leader of the BNP.

a man from brum said...

East Midlands Anonymous. No, you bog off you spiteful creep. There are many of your type in the party who seem to have the backward attitude of: if your not with us you must be against us. You are a vindictive idiot who should find a home in the BPP.

Anonymous said...

The label and brand name
BNP
is the personal property of Nick Griffin - read the constitution.

The only way forward is with a new party, with an executive who implement policy, directed and decided by the membership.

Wake up and build a new party.

Make a list of all who have behaved as Nick Griffins devoted agents, brown noses and henchmen during this entire period. They can never be rehabilitated and must never be trusted to be part of our movement.