Sunday, July 27, 2008

Vanguard Promotions

After following the link to http://northwestnationalists.blogspot.com/ and reading about the shocking revelation concerning the BNP bank statements, I have added some valuable information of the shady world that is the BNP leadership.


Vanguard Promotions:

Mark Collett is self-employed. This should not really be the case as he does all or at least the great majority of his work for the BNP. He should be a salaried employee of the BNP, yet if this was the case then the BNP would have to pay National Insurance on his behalf and would have other tax liabilities. It is much easier for both parties if he is classed as self-employed. He works as a Sole Trader. The BNP is seemingly dodging National Insurance contributions.

Most self-employed people have a trading name, not necessarily a company, yet a trading name – one which they use when doing business. Sometimes it is just their own name i.e. Mark Collett, sometimes it is a made up name, such as Vanguard Promotions. Some people form a limited company, which is different from a Sole Trader. Limited companies have to have audited accounts (filed at Companies House) have to have Articles of Association, a Company Register etc. whereas a Sole Trader can do their own accounts and they remain private.

When looking at the accounts of a limited company (whether public or private) you will see what the company has paid for wages, goods, services, and what it has earned in revenue, how many assets it owns etc. You simply can’t go to a Sole Trader and find out how much they paid for certain services or primary goods, or how much they received for doing a particular job, without them telling you – yet they have no obligation to tell you.

Mark Collett is a Sole Trader. He generates all, or at least the great majority of, his income from the BNP (either Head Office or local units). When you see your unit bank statement (if you ever get to see it and it ever be correct) and it says Vanguard Promotions then this is money paid directly to Mark Collett, as a Sole Trader, using the trading name of Vanguard Promotions.

Bank Statements

Now, the BNP, as can be seen from the bank statements both of Head Office and the local units, pays out an absolute fortune to Vanguard Promotions during each year. This figure runs into tens of thousands, if not over a hundred thousand once all the local units have been accounted for. This does not mean to say that Collett gets paid over £100,000 a year and has this figure as a net profit, yet it does say that once Collett has paid his own bills for leaflets etc. he is left with £100,000 (for example) minus his own costs. As he is a Sole Trader, nobody, anywhere, can get to see what he pays out in costs, thus nobody anywhere, can get to see what he makes for himself each year. Also, Mark Collett claims expenses back from the Party via Form 11s (which exist to pay back officials for out of pocket expenses such as fuel and stationary). So not only is he ‘Self-Employed’ and getting paid a fortune for producing Identity Magazine and local and national leaflets – he also claims back expenses, saving himself a fortune yet costing the BNP a fortune all the same! These are the expenses he incurs in producing the things for which the BNP shells out a fortune – you just can’t make this up.

How much does he make?

Mark Collett might make £14,000 per year as a net profit, and essentially be paid what the ‘rebels’ were paid before they were sacked and expelled, or he may earn what Nick Griffin gets paid, which is alleged to be around £27,000 AFTER tax and national insurance – I am hopeful of getting more on this soon, for the time being I can only say alleged. He may earn £40,000 per year or he may earn £80,000 per year. The truth is that nobody knows. He is classed as Self-Employed so the BNP do not check his cheques, his printer receipts etc. – they have no authority to do so. He just sends in an invoice and gets paid – great work if you can get it (or maybe not if you have a nationalist conscience and would never dream of ripping off fellow hard-working nationalists).

There are many varied guesses as to just how much Collett actually makes from the BNP each year. Without being able to prove either way, I would use the following barometer: the lifestyle he leads. Most nationalists, and most of those who work in nationalism (or at least those that used to) earn very little each month, live in either rented houses or basic owned houses, drive old bangers or basic cars, go on few holidays, don’t eat out much etc. etc.

Mark Collett lives in a posh area of Leeds. His address (from the 2008 local elections) is:
10A Kingswear Crescent, Crossgates, Leeds, LS15 8PB.

I presume that he rents this address; at least it has not yet shown up as ‘bought & sold’ on the website http://www.nethouseprices.com/ – yet by following the link

http://www.nethouseprices.com/index.php?con=sold_prices_street_detail&street=KINGSWEAR+CRESCENT&locality=LEEDS&town=LEEDS&cCode=EW&year=All&house_style=All&house_age=All&search_radius=15&outcode=LS15&incode=8PB&eastingToSearch=43690&northingToSearch=43390

you can see that number 10 recently sold for big bucks – namely £210,000. The rent on his place, number 10A, for a single guy, must be huge – absolutely huge.

Mark Collett drives a lovely BMW. Mark Collett visits Lap Dancing clubs (paying to watch our own once-proud women exploited in some seedy sex show) in Leeds with his friends from the Treasury Department. Mark Collett can often be found eating in swanky restaurants. Need I go on?

Conclusions

To sum up then, the BNP’s own bank statements for both Head Office and local units show Mark Collett getting paid an absolute fortune via his trading name Vanguard Promotions.
Mark Collett will have costs to pay for getting leaflets printed, or banners done etc. or getting ID printed. However, Mark Collett uses Form 11s to get some expenses claimed back from the BNP!
Mark Collett, via Vanguard Promotions, makes as a net profit, the sum of the total amount his gets paid from the BNP (and any other sources) minus his own expenses.
Mark Collett could be earning a fortune from the BNP – nobody can know for sure as nobody can see his accounts.
Mark Collett lives at a posh address, drives a posh car, and lives an extravagant lifestyle.

And people wonder why certain other people got sick of the rotten and shameful goings on at the top of the BNP and wanted to do something about it! These people tried to do it in-house, yet the Chairman rebuked them. They tried again and again yet to no avail. Then things turned public, largely due to horrendous errors of judgement by the current BNP Leadership, and an all-encompassing mess unfolded. However, things are still rotten and corrupt and so the fight goes on. One day the BNP will be rid of money grabbing charlatans, devious backstabbers and incompetent morons. Once the membership rise up and kick the snouts of the leadership well and truly out of the trough then the sun will once again shine brightly for British Nationalism.

78 comments:

Anonymous said...

Much food for thought, I was under the impression that the Party paid out for printing equipment a couple of years ago. ???? Can someone put me right on that?

Anti-gag said...

I was totally shocked to read your allegations against Mark Collett, you'll be telling us next that Jeffrey Archer isn't 100% honest, or that Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy are myth.

I have known Mark Collett since 2000 and can tell you now that he is one of the nicest, most honest, reliable, modest, straight forward, God-fearing, kind, and understanding people I know. I would say more, but I'm late for my appointment with my psychiatrist.

snakebite said...

Whilst it's pretty appalling that some people are getting paid handsomely it seems yet others get sod all, even if Collett did what he did for the BNP free, I think he should still be kicked out for one of Gri££ins favourite accusations... Bringing the party into disrepute.

Not just once, but over and over again.

Why should Collett gat more chances than anyone else?

He is a liability and if Gri££in was as worried about image as he makes out Collett would have gone ages ago as all his tv documentary appearances comply with the stereotypical image thrust upon us by reds.

That he gets paid so much to make to act so stupid and make a mockery of the modernisation of the bnp just rubs salt in the wounds.

Anonymous said...

Mark collett has to drive a nice car and go to swanky restaurants as he has nothing else going for him, how else do you think he gets any woman to go out with him? It is certainly not his personality. If you have ever spent 5 minutes in his company you will see what I am talking about, he is self-centered, arrogant, egotistical and this is why he has no friends. The only people who are ever seen out his with are his chums from treasury Dave & John (ex-treasury) who join him at the strip clubs, that is not surprising as they have no friends either. What a trio, I bet the girls head in the other direction when they see those three arriving!

Richard Chadfield said...

Anonymous said...

Much food for thought, I was under the impression that the Party paid out for printing equipment a couple of years ago. ???? Can someone put me right on that?

Sunday, July 27, 2008
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I remember the party raising seventy five thousand pounds for printing equipment in the 2004 Euros. I even saw the equipement when I visited the warehouse in Yorkshire were it was housed. Where did the equipement go? I don't know but I have an uneasy feeling that it may have gone to Vangard promotions.
As an aside I also remember the party raising money for a double decker bus that was decked out in BNP logo. It was a 'truth bus'. Where did it go?
Nice to know that the BNP has openly transparent financial procedures.

turfpro said...

Peedo Boy also regularly visits prostitutes but how old are these girls (or boys) where have these call girls hailed from?
Most come from eastern europe such as russia which means that he is happy to sleep with immigrents.

ivan from bradford said...

I have brought this up before on this blog and also when I was speaking at the 'rebels' meeting at the Royal Pub in Bradford in Dec 2007. Collett used to get a lot of his BNP printing, national and local, done by Bakes & Lord printers which is in Queensbury Ward, Bradford (Cromie's fiefdom). I have known the directors of B&L since 1991. I found out in the summer of 2007 that they had stopped printing for the Party nationally. Reasons included, demands for invoices to be changed, demands for 'discounts' that hadn't been agreed, late payment from Treasury, being blamed when in fact they had been supplied with poor quality artwork etc etc. They were happy to keep on printing for local branches that they were dealing with directly like myself, Cromie, the Calderdale Branch etc. I understand that P Cromie got to hear about their complaints this year and had a row with Collett about upsetting 'his local printers'.
I asked the question the other month on this blog about the ownership of the Party's assets ? We know Vanguard is Collett's private asset, what about Trafalgar Club and it's non-existent accounting, Great White Records which illegally has only one director - last I heard etc etc. Who owns the various printing machines around the place, Excalibur stock etc. We now know who owns the Truth Truck thanks to the NWNationalist blog.

dchq said...

I hope you don't mind if I use this article on the Dissident Congress website.

Richard Chadfield said...

what about Trafalgar Club and it's non-existent accounting,
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I think it would be a good idea to build up a registar of Trafalgar Club members. Each Trafalgar Club member pays (or did when I last heard) £180 a year. So we are talking about a sizeable sum of money. Lets see if all that money is being correctly recorded. We need Trafalgar Club members to contact V of C in confidence. Once we know how many members there are we know how much is paid in each year and can then compare this figure with the declared figure(if there is one) Club members pay this money for political work --not for lavish expenses or other payments.
Richard Chadfield

Richard Chadfield said...

We now know who owns the Truth Truck thanks to the NWNationalist blog.

Sunday, July 27, 2008
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So if the BNP are renting a truck and not buying a truck are they not guilty of obtaining money by false pretences by asking people to donate to raise the money to buy the truck?
And just what is happening (or has happened) to the money raised?
I think this whole matter needs professionally investing.
Richard Chadfield

Northwest Member said...

Hi Richard.You constantly harp on about BNP finances and open accounting etc, OK thats fair enough. Can you please tell everyone what you did with the thousands of pounds you and Bev Jones took in the name of the St Georges Society off the north west groups expressly for the Euro elections? Not one penny came to the party.

Richard Chadfield said...

Anonymous Northwest Member said...

Hi Richard.You constantly harp on about BNP finances and open accounting etc, OK thats fair enough. Can you please tell everyone what you did with the thousands of pounds you and Bev Jones took in the name of the St Georges Society off the north west groups expressly for the Euro elections? Not one penny came to the party.

Sunday, July 27, 2008
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Would the writer of this potentially libellous statement please identify himself/herself.
Richard Chadfield

Uncle Sam said...

Last year the TC boasted 400 recipients of the TC occasional newsletter "Victory". As many 2007 members didnt renew in 2008 (myself included) that figure may be down by 25% so let's say 300. Now as us Stateside say, "you go do the math".
£180 is absolute minimum by the way.

Old timer said...

This is really damaging material, this has to be the day that Griffin sacks the useless and incompetent Collett. He is not only a political liability but a financial burden as well. I would advise that this blog doesnt become a anti-Collett hate-sheet adn it is tempting for those poor bastards who put their hand in their pockets at every meeting and whenever they get another appeal letter to vent their fury at Collett's expenses but stick to the facts, it is the facts and the figures which will bring down the current corrupt house of cards.

Anonymous said...

Actually it's 'Ivan from Bradford' but your system has now refused my password - it was OK three hours ago !!
1. I had a member in Bradford Branch who subscribed to TC (in addition to the obvious - Paul & Linda Cromie). He paid his money for over a year but was never invited to the events even though one of them occurred in South Bradford at the Cedar Court.
2. The lack of accounts for TC was specifically mentioned on the BBC Radio program 'File on 4' back in March.
3. The same program had coverage from a resigned BNP National Treasurer, J Brayshaw. He was 'assisted' by Hannam & Walker to sort out his final accounts when he finished as Treasurer. Various documents were left at the end and he was told to shred the documents and burn the shreddings. He shredded the docs but kept the shreddings which he gave to BBC Radio reporters. Among docs they pieced together were some TC receipts !!

CFL Blog Admin said...

"Actually it's 'Ivan from Bradford' but your system has now refused my password - it was OK three hours ago !!"

It's not "our" system, we use Blogger which is part of Google, the biggest computer company on the planet and BTW one which takes free speech very seriously, much more so than that guilt ridden plutocrat Bill Gates' Microsoft outfit which is part of the multi-culti, anti-European, liberal consensus.

DANGERMAN said...

Just a couple of points here --

The first is, that Mein Fuhrer will NEVER allow change in the party. Full Stop.

Eventually, the rest of the present membership will see the light - with catastrophic consequences for the present leadership.

Therefore - it stands to reason - that all true nationalists have to carry on the fight against this treasonous government - UNDER ANOTHER NAME.

Which means an elected chairman and executive - with "no baggage" - a constitution and policies with absolutely no links to the former nationalist party - by all means publish the evidence and FACTS about the bnp current leadership - THEN MOVE ON.

Better time can be made - other by slagging off various people - and time is now of the essence - i'm sure all will agree.

The short version of this is - stop griping and organise, so that the good people of this beloved Country of ours have someone worthwhile to vote for - a party with sound policies - sound constitution - honourable members - YES! - We have to put the HONOUR back into Honourable!

Let's get on with it!!

Anonymous said...

"Among docs they pieced together were some TC receipts !!"

And what did those pieces of paper (reunited) show?

All ears here.!

Anonymous said...

Dangerman said

Therefore - it stands to reason - that all true nationalists have to carry on the fight against this treasonous government - UNDER ANOTHER NAME.

Which means an elected chairman and executive - with "no baggage" - a constitution and policies with absolutely no links to the former nationalist party -

.......

In the end it may come to this but let's see what happens at the EGM. If Griffin fails to get the four year plan implamented he will no doubt spit his dummy out and start a new round of purging. This will no doubt strengthen that group of people outside the party with axes to grind. But having all these groups and individuals scattered about the country could prove problematic. Griffin knows that there will be infighting as to who would run this new group/party. As for using someone not associated with the BNP, this would be imposible. They would have to be known, capable and trusted to launch, develop and run a new party, at least as caretaker for the first year, and see how things come together. Is there the will to do this, is there the understanding and patience to see this through?

pieandpeas said...

The anonymous supposedly "northwest member" trolling your blogspot making libels against you is actually George Deighton from Islington, London (also known as Green Arrow), an idiot who has for a long time plagued the Northwest Nationalists forum with pro-griffin crap.

DANGERMAN said...

I think the main point is being missed - Blears has already hammered in the thin edge of the wedge, by withdrawing funding for parties or "groups" - CONSIDERED to be extremists’ or radicals. Yes, the bnp have not been given any funding - BUT - the next step, from Traitors brown bodges and co - will be to BAN all extremist and radical groups - and the bnp has been portrayed as extremist since year dot! Therefore, in 18mths to three years (max) - there WON'T be any bnp anyway. Don't forget, it’s been a criminal offence to criticise the eu for at least the last ten years that I know of - and now that HM has been forced to give Royal Assent to the traitorous so called lisbon treaty - it won't be long before criticising the eu will be used to jail people! Even though that jailing will be illegal under British Statute and Common Law!! –
There would be no "infighting" in a new party - people would be duly elected - and ALL WOULD BE READING FROM THE SAME PAGE. The difference would be - that there would be the structure there to support elected councillors. There was basically nothing wrong with the structured departments in the old ministries system - until bliar and co started mending what wasn't broke - and have continued to do so, to the detriment of their own kith and kin.
So in the meantime - I've got on with it, using the law and the laws of my BIRTHRIGHT - and written to Sir Norman Bettison to require and request that he use the powers invested in him, as an officer of the Crown holding the Queens Warrant, to exert that Authority on my behalf, for the protection of myself and Her Majesties Loyal Subjects, to issue and execute a warrant of arrest against brown and other conspirators - the warrant to be made out to the charge of treason. ( In that he and other conspirators have entered into treason by the making of illegal treatises with a purported foreign “authority”, that foreign “authority” not recognising or acknowledging the Authority of the Sovereign or the British Crown). If this is not done within the next 21 days - I shall submit a complaint to the PCC and to Her Majesty. If anyone should be interested - I also gave 40 days notice to HM for her dismissal of this traitorous parliament.
As this has not happened - then today - 28th July 2008, under Article 61 of Magna Carta, I officially become a Freeman, and enter into Lawful Rebellion which is my Birthright and my Legal Right under the said Article. Before anyone dismisses this as the ravings of a loon – (I’ve also published it in the Public Notices Column) - check it out for yourselves. It’s all legal and it’s all English - both Statute and Common Law, which is unrepealable and non-negotiable, and is my Birthright. Read the terms of the Coronation Oath, sworn by HM on 22nd June 1953 - That’s the Royal Assent (which every Monarch before has sworn) - and that’s why brown and co want it removed from the Monarchy.........(note: AFTER he used it for the illegal lisbon treaty)!!

dchq said...

Did anybody notice David Blunkett speaking at the 2005 general election and saying that the BNP will not be around to fight the next general election?

I wonder what he really meant by this?

Timbo said...

The "decision" to only take cash on the door at RWB: Could that not be a way for Gr£$in to keep out those bnp members who it is thought may vote the 'wrong' way in the so called EGM leadership vote?

Anti-gag said...

It now seems like Chris Jackson and his backers are starting to take the lead in the fight against the Griffin/Collett gang, VoC must take back the initiative. Getting the BNP out of the hands of the Griffinits,only to hand it back to Tyndallites would be a hollow victory indeed. Neither Griffin nor Jackson can take our party forward, now is the time for the VoC team to show leadership. Act now or we're lost.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

endoscope said...

Tell us what's wrong with Chris Jackson, Mr Hill?

Chris Jackson is a hardworking thorn in Cyclops's pimply, hairy, smelly arse! Please don't slag one of the more able "rebels" off on this tupenny auty forum.

At least he has the guts to keep the pressure on the "One Eyed Monster" and "Paedo Boy", and isn't scared of the intimidation that put auty of the leadership race, my friends.

Without people such as Jackson, the sick pervert collet from leistershire wouldn't have been recently exposed for pocketing money with griffin, having a posh car and expensive flat, and seeing foreign prostitutes, on the expense of the ordinary rank and file bnp members as it is Chris Jackson who digs most of the stories against the Gri££in Gang.

dchq said...

There is one question I have to ask you all. What do you consider to be the future of British Nationalism?

one voice said...

Let us remember that ALL of us that have been ostracised and illegally expelled by that vile little man and his smarmy underage girl chasing sidekick, are in the same boat.

The Challenge for Leadership team have always respected Chris Jackson and his team and will continue to do so regardless of the fact that we differ somewhat in our methods. It is only fair to expect the same.

This is OUR Party and the skills that we all have will be needed to be pooled together if we are to one day rebuild the BNP free from the shadow of Griffinism. .

Anti-gag said...

Dear Endoscope,

You ask: 'What is wrong with Chris Jackson, Mr Hill'

My answer:

As an individual nothing at all, but as leader of the BNP he would be a disaster. Jackson and his group are Tyndallites and would like the party to return to the ideals and policies it held in the 1980's and 90's. I'm afraid that would spell the end of any chance of electoral success that party has, in much the same way as Griffin's dictatorship does. We need to move forward not backwards.

I'm not slagging Chris Jackson off, and I'm sure he has many good qualities (although he does seem to be a bit extreme for my liking), he is simply not the man for the job.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anti-gag said...

Dear One Voice,

Well said!

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

londonsnide said...

Maybe but who is the right man for the job who can see off peedofiles and crooks?

Mister Jackson probably thinks you wouldn't make a good leader Anti-Gag Chris?

If the members voted for the experience of Jackson would you go along with it or would you spit out your dummy?

Anonymous said...

I posted this on NWN and feel that it is relevant to post it here:

Anonymous said...
Baz saids

The BNP name still has "baggage" on the doorsteps - even with Gri££in removed, many millions have been spent defaming the party and all it stands for.

Perhaps he has done us a favour - forced nationalism into a corner, where the only way out is a new party

29 July 2008 15:50

Couldn't agree more. The difficulty come when deciding what level of Nationalist ideology should be adopted. Is it hard right or moderate? If it's moderate the World could be your oyster. So many, many voters, sitting on the fence, including myself, are fed up with the liberal way this country is being governed and ruined. I dream of a night in shining armour that will come and rescue this wonderful country, I know it is not Griffin.

There are so many small groups that have split from the BNP and started their own parties, each struggling to be heard. That is just what Griffin wanted. A comming together would frighten the life out of him, his bum would fall off.

If it turns out that the BNP or, indeed, a new party takes the route of hard right Nationalism I would consider it a folly. Repairing or building a new party with the intention of winning any sort of power would be hard going. If you give your enimies a stick to beat you with from the start just makes the task even harder, almost impossible.

Name any one of three main parties that tell the truth prior to an election, liars and bastards the lot of them. I say if you want to beat them join them. 'Gently gently catch a monkey'
All true Nationalists that are prepaired to put their heads above the parapet and deal with, shall we say, adversaries, are brave people. But now commeth the hour of 'Brains Not Brawn.

29 July 2008 17:32

Simon Smith said...

It will be hard enough picking up the pieces after Gri££in has gone.

There needs to be forbearance and a broad front. Ideological differences can be debated in private.

Anti-gag said...

Dear Londonsnide,

You said:

'Mister Jackson probably thinks you wouldn't make a good leader Anti-Gag Chris?'

I say:

Well there's at lest one point then that myself and Chris Jackson do agree on.

And as for your last comment: if Chris Jackson stood against Griffin and promised to introduce a democratic party constitution, I'd vote for him.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

To Chris Hill, you have the cheek to bismurk Jackson. You have only been in the party 3 years.

Colin Bradford bnp

Anonymous said...

I agree with a couple of comments here, in that, we need a new party and now. The difference between this possibility and previous Nationalist splits etc is that with those supporting VOC we have the best of British and more would come out of the woodwork - me for one - if we felt there was a definite way forward. The amount of time and effort spent by us all in attempting to change the BNP would be better spent in a positive way forward. We do still have time... just! Unless VOC have things up their sleeves that will make a difference but cannot be made public for legal reasons then all well and good but something needs to happen soon!

Bilbo

dchq said...

Here's an interesting question that nobody seems to have asked. Does Gri££in REALLY want the BNP to be a Nationalist party?

I have been a BNP member for 10 years so have first hand experience of how it has changed over time. Initially, I welcomed Gri££in and his modernising reforms to blow away all the old dust from the Tyndall era and make the party more appealing to the electorate. In recent years I have become concerned at the direction Gri££in has been taking the BNP. Nationalism is being thrown out and the BNP is gradually becoming an anti-Islamic version of the Liberal Democrats. Or NuBNP for short.

Is there a possibility that many of the fine members that Gri££in has purged were purged because they were Nationalists? The sort of people Gri££in doesn't want in his NuBNP in exactly the same way as NuLab doesn't want Clause 4 supporting Scargillites.

If the BNP has a sufficiently high proportion of rank and file members who are Nationalists then the party can be saved by deposing of Gri££in and his gang. If the NuBNP types end up dominating the rank and file membership then the BNP has ceased being a Nationalist party so cannot be saved as a force in Nationalism.

blackpool ex said...

I agree with colin that you are getting as arrogant as the one eyed monster, chris.

How can you say jackson isn't fit to run the bnp?

The man's lived and breathed nationalism longer than you have picked your nose.

Show some respect, Hill, you upity upstart!

Anti-gag said...

Folks this isn't a petty squabble, its a fight for our party's very survival, because the British public will never vote for an undemocratic party lead by a dictator. The BNP is now in a major decline, membership decimated, our average vote falling for the last two years, and the party's finances in taters, quite simply many of the people at the top now aren't up to the job. Burying our heads in the sand and hoping things will be OK, simply isn't going to work.

Unless the party becomes and is seen to be: Honest, Democratic, and Electable, we might as well give up and go home. Since Griffin took over in 1999 I've been hearing the same old promises: 'be patient and things will come right', unless we act now to put our own house in order they won't.

Yes Griffin has charisma (all good con men do), but the mass media will never allow Griffin on shows such as Question time, and any amount of charisma is useless on a 90 sec local TV news report, which is all he ever gets these days. Good God we're still talking about a Jeremy Paxman interview he did over 4 years ago, while the voting public forgot it the next morning. In every other respect he's a total liability. His leadership skills are dreadful, and his honesty and judgement are to say the least in doubt. What the party needs now is not a third rate actor/dictator like Griffin, but a trust worthy leader who can build up the party. And it must be a party that has a democratic constitution, and effective middle management structure.

Griffin must be stopped he can't be allowed to remove the last vestige of democracy from the party. I didn't join the BNP to see it become the Nick Griffin fan club, I joined what I thought was a serious political party, next month at the EGM we'll see if I was right.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anti-gag said...

Dear Colin Bradford BNP,

You're quite wrong about my length of membership, I'm in my tenth consecutive year as a fully paid up member.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

How can we get gri££in to go when he has so many friends in high places?

Anti-gag said...

Dear Blackpool Ex,

How does my opinion, that Chris Jackson is not the best man to lead the BNP, make me arrogant?
Surely I'm entitled to hold a view on the matter without being accused of arrogance. This shouldn't stop the two wings of the party working together to unseat the dictator Griffin, and I have said that I would back Jackson as a stopgap leader while the party undergoes the necessary democratic changes to make it electable. Once we have achieved that then we can put our different ideas, for the future of the party, to the membership for their decision .

Meanwhile 'Blackpool Ex' you'll just have to accept that I feel there are far more suitable, and compliment, potential leaders in the party than Chris Jackson, in just the same way that I have to accept that you hold the opposite view.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

The BNP accounts have been published on the Electoral Commission web-site today

Bilbo

DANGERMAN said...

What the party needs now is not a third rate actor/dictator like Griffin, but a trust worthy leader who can build up the party. And it must be a party that has a democratic constitution, and effective middle management structure.

Griffin must be stopped he can't be allowed to remove the last vestige of democracy from the party. I didn't join the BNP to see it become the Nick Griffin fan club, I joined what I thought was a serious political party, next month at the EGM we'll see if I was right.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Hi Chris,
So you think you'll be allowed into the EGM? Do you also think you will get a vote?? –
Why does ANY party need a "Democratic Constitution"?? What’s wrong with the one this Country already has?? (Apart from the Traitors at the top mending stuff that ain't brok?? The various Acts I mentioned in the previous comments were designed by far-sighted, deep thinking for-the-most-part loyal subjects and it prevents this country from being taken over by foreigners and other religions. Whilst often quoted that "No parliament can make binding laws that a new parliament cannot change" - these Acts together with British Common Law, were thought out and introduced BEFORE parliaments as we know them today began - and they were made BINDING on the Monarch of the day, and SUCCEEDING Monarchs. Anyone operating on the Monarchs behalf had sworn an Oath to the Monarch. Treason is a word lightly bandied about these days - BUT it is still a CRIMINAL OFFENCE - and the death sentence was only commuted to Life Imprisonment in 1998 - ONLY TEN YEARS AGO.
I have taken note of all the squabbling and moaning on this and the other sites - so if no-one can agree on anything, sorry, I'll be off and not waste anymore of my valuable time - and as also previously stated - in a couple of years there won't BE a bnp party, or any other party which is CONSIDERED by the present traitors to be "extremist" or even "radical". God knows how many times this has been stated - God knows how many people want to lock up Nationalists - but when brown and co have finally removed the Royal Assent – (mention of this last month) - God knows every Englishman's Birthrights goes with it - along with all the British Common Laws - and when the people THEN wake up and see what slaves they have become - the Ess-Aitch-One-Tee will really hit the fan. Look around!! - Most of the working people left, are already only earning enough to pay for illegal taxes and fuel for heat and light, THEN FOOD - then there's nothing left.
Give me a call when someone's got a decent act together - you can read about the LEGAL actions I’ve taken in a certain local newspaper next week - Ivan, Jim or Neil can give anyone my 24hr number if they have any interest - but be quick, - I don't think the so called authorities are going to like it one little bit. You see, there are more and more of us who are taking the same actions as individuals - and as you all know, individuals are easier targets - but who cares? - You lot argue it out - I'm going down FIGHTING for my Country, my Monarch, and the near thousand years of Justice that made this country the Greatest in the World - too many of our Dad's and Granddads’ lost their lives for us - and they didn't sit around arguing the toss!!
I'll keep an eye out - but there'll be no more comments from this end.

Anonymous said...

Chris Hill I have the membership data for Lancaster and it show that you have only been in the party 3years.

Carol Lancaster

Anti-gag said...

Dear Carol Lancaster,

I don't doubt for one minute that a membership list produced by the Griffin/Collett gang would show that. However I have 10 consecutive membership cards to prove otherwise, and in fact I was the Lancaster & Morecambe organiser from 2003 until I resigned last December. I also stood as a local council candidate for the party in May 2003.

But if you doubt any of this you can check out my membership number 5996, which is by far the earliest in the Lancaster area (unless of course someone else with longer period of membership has moved into the area in the last 6 months).

If you have a membership list for Lancaster, I must assume you are the new contact for the area so I look forward to hearing from you very soon. I can be contacted on chris@chrishill.freeserve.co.uk or phone 01524-64307.

From.
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

bat and ball said...

Sounds like the Cyclops dirty tricks bandwagon.

dchq said...

Can anybody compile a list of potential replacements for Gri££in as leader of the BNP.

Anonymous said...

I was told that Bev Jones and Richard Chatfeild took £2000 from the Stockport branch and spent it on printing machines for leaflets.

They have not returned the printers to the new organiser or given him reciepts for the money spent

Stockport member

Simon Smith said...

Interesting comments about the EU Dangerman. Can you write a blog on the subject ? Sometimes, the most interesting stuff on the net gets sidelined to the comments sections.

ellandroader said...

£2000 is peanuts compared to the hundreds of thousands rifled by cyclops griffin, 5imon darby and peedo boy collett, you stupid pig-headed stockport stoooge.

Lets chuffin put this in a bit of perspective.

Anonymous said...

The plot thickens.

Kemp is very dodgy, so is his countryman.

Darby doesn't know the difference between a Red and a Nazi.

None of them have any idea of what honesty and truth
mean.

My money isn't going into their pension funds anymore.

One fine upstanding individual could sweep to power in this country with money and support.
One brings the other.

Griffin will never achieve that so another twenty years with a fresh start would be worthwhile.

Who will rise to the challenge?

DANGERMAN said...

Simon Smith said...
Interesting comments about the EU Dangerman. Can you write a blog on the subject ? Sometimes, the most interesting stuff on the net gets sidelined to the comments sections.

Thsnk you Simon, I reckon that qualifies for a reply - I personally don't know anything about blogs - unlike you young 'uns! - To save time, - I would direct all interested parties to the site of Mr John Harris - where all you could wish to know, PLUS what you can do about it, as I and many others have done, is available, including letter templates etc. I can tell you now, should anyone have further enquiries, that Mr John Harris is VERY courteous, and usually answers phone calls straight away, unlike some others!!
The site is www.tpuc.org or type in the address bar The Public Defender, and take it from there. I became a Freeman on Monday, and entered into Lawful Rebellion, which is my Legal Right. The local paper is running the story this coming Wedensday. I would only caution, that anyone wishing to use the process solely for the avoidance of paying taxes - that it dosn't work for that reason!! Which saying, I wrote to Her Majesty's Inspector of Taxes with the request for the cost of the Actual Governance of this country - (Thats all your obliged to pay taxes for!) - and I had the interesting reply this morning, that "..as my enquiry does not concern my own tax affairs, they are unable to provide any advice" -- WHAT?!!! - Excuse me, - what part of financing the Governing of this Country does NOT affect my taxes??? Oh well...... Anyway, see the site www.tpuc.org The Public Defender - and happy reading!!

Anonymous said...

What I dont understand is if MC runs his own company and is self employed how does this qualify him a seat on the ac?

dchq said...

Does anybody know more about The Public Defender? It looks like it might have some things in common with Dissident Congress, which I am a member of.

lost member said...

It's plain to see why Griffin is in bed with Collett.

Collett is his secret love child! Look at the nose and eyes spitting image. All he needs to do now is shoot himself in the eye and Collett will be the perfect clone.

NG is in it for himself and where ever he can get support. If that means the likes of B&H etc he doesn't care.

Smell the coffee Nick. Your time as leader is over let us all know when you go and sign onto Jobseekers as that will make the news headlines.

Collett's former chaffeur said...

"Collett is his secret love child! Look at the nose and eyes spitting image. All he needs to do now is shoot himself in the eye and Collett will be the perfect clone."

This is just plain stupid. To defeat the monster that is Griffin and to take the nationalist movement forward to higher levels of success demands more reasoned debate and responsible dialogue. Yes - it is now widely recognised that Griffin has reached a plateau and he cant go beyond that. Any would-be challenger; whether as an individual or as part of the much discussed "Council of Elders" must rise above the name calling and innuendo and lies- leave that to the real losers like Barnes/Darby/the druggie scum from South Yorkshire and Cumbria who Griffin uses ad hoc as "attack dogs", "attack weasels" more appropriate!

Keep it real, honest and factual.

brooksy said...

You have to fight NOW.

Too many BNPers know NOTHING of this. EVEN NOW!

Especially in London, but not exclusively so, they are being spoon fed lies by Gri££in's machine.

YOU HAVE TO FIGHT BACK NOW.

The only way to unseat Gri££in is to get maximum exposure of the criminal activities, paedophilia, corruption etc.

Sad to say the only outlet that will do the damage to him necessary is the media.

Don't feel you can't. Don't feel it's wrong.

It is either that or another 5+ years of the filth, squalor, corruption and cronyism which will keep nationalism in the gutter!

Please do have the courage to publish this because i think genuine nationalists need to shake the sleep from their eyes and realise that the cards are stacked against you/us.

At the moment Gri££in is in a winning position - and he knows it.

Time to fight back.

Anonymous said...

Problem is Griffin - John Tyndall 2003

“Long ago, I came to realise that as far as Nick Griffin is concerned policy stances are simply things to be adopted or discarded in accordance with how they further his ends in the factional wars in which, for his whole political life, he seems to have been engaged. His tactics are nothing if not consistent. He ascertains the policy stance of the person he perceives to be his current rival, and he then adopts a different one - so that he can then present his position as arising out of political necessity rather than egotism and ambition. He gets away with this with many people because he has a silver tongue that at times can be extremely persuasive. It takes getting to know the man to see through his tricks.”

Richard Chadfield said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was told that Bev Jones and Richard Chatfeild took £2000 from the Stockport branch and spent it on printing machines for leaflets.

They have not returned the printers to the new organiser or given him reciepts for the money spent

Stockport member

Thursday, July 31, 2008
---------------------------------
Hello Mr/Mrs/Ms ( I dare not put my name to my postings) anonymous.
You should be more careful with those with whome you chose to gossip.
First. I do not believe that you are a Stockport BNP member because you do not even know my name. If you are a Stockport member you will know my email address and phone number so why don't you contact me direct?
Second. Your second hand allagations are false. I am not prepared to discuss this over the internet but I am prepared to meet you in person to discuss this. As a Stockport member you will have my email address and phone number so contact me.
Richard Chadfield.

ptc said...

NG has used Bumbrooks success to galvanise the BNP esp in the Europen elections. He is already pushing for big donations for Europe.

NG rides these storms by the skin of his teeth and with the luck of the devil. 1986, 2001... he did the same.

If you want to regain the BNP [as much as i hate to say it] you must have no qualms in fighting him.

Otherwise he WILL win and you'll be another footnote like the Freedom Party with some drifting back to serve under him like bom-ber lecom-ber!

You MUST get this fight off the ground.

YOU HAVE NO CHOICE!!!!

Get in there, network, send roaving speakers, and GET THE GRASSROOTS AWAY FROM GRIFFIN!!!

I spoke to a grassroots member yesterday who had no real idea about the rebellion - and he doesn't even like Griffin!!!

Liaise. Network. Contact. or you are yesterdays news, and NG's corruption, nepotism, cronyism and profiteering.

Do you want a winning BNP? Or just another wing added to the Gribin and another bolthole/retirement villa in Eastern Europe?

The choice is yours, but you must stage a PROACTIVE ASSAULT.

Anonymous said...

THIS IS DARK AND WORRYING. Of course I think I would be generally better informed about the kinds of people I believed to be my friends. For example, doesn't Nina Brown know that BNP Security chief Reynolds is a self-exposed sex pervert and admitted fetishist? He's said as much but this doesn't seem to faze anybody! OK, so that's not the issue and I don't expect that an obviously genuine individual like Nina to have yet woken up to the realities lying just underneath the surface where the some of her "colleagues" are concerned.

A sad time for all those of us who followed Tyndall from the 1970s onwards, warts and all, and saw major progress in terms of local and national elections - and party growth - under his much-abused tutelage and before the not-so-pretty boy took over.

And politics is a dirty game as Bill said........

What is now needed is a new approach and better vehicle for moving Nationalism forward in Britain because the clique running the mainstream party at the moment are broken and corrupt to the extent that they will destroy anybody who disagrees with them and dares to think for themselves.

That is no formula for national renewal.

Simon Smith said...

"Get in there, network, send roaving speakers, and GET THE GRASSROOTS AWAY FROM GRIFFIN!!!

I spoke to a grassroots member yesterday who had no real idea about the rebellion - and he doesn't even like Griffin!!!"


This is happening. The Truth is being realised by individual's who are seeking a Nationalist solution outside of the crooks.

Every couple of weeks I'm speaking to an ex activist for has finally seen the light. It's difficult to convince. By and large people have to "see" for themselves.

Anonymous said...

For example, doesn't Nina Brown know that BNP Security chief Reynolds is a self-exposed sex pervert and admitted fetishist? He's said as much but this doesn't seem to faze anybody!

What are you some kind of a puritan?
What makes you think that Nina might not have fetishes of her own? Everyone has their own sexuality and are entitled to it as long as it isn't inflicted on children, animals or in a violent way. In other words I have the very libertarian view that if someones sex life doesn't harm anybody else and is consenting then fine and none of our business!

By the way I would remove Louise Scott as one of your listed supporters. She is back firmly and has been warmly welcomed back by the British National Party.

dchq said...

As I have previously said, I am convinced that the root of the problem is 5IMon Darby. It will be very interesting to see how Gri££in fares as leader without 5IMon Darby.

Eastern BNP said...

"By the way I would remove Louise Scott as one of your listed supporters. She is back firmly and has been warmly welcomed back by the British National Party."

She remains a supporter for VOC and is doing what everyone should be doing who wants change, getting active locally, not nationally, but locally. Build a good local unit, refuse to send money to central HQ apart from membership subs, keep all money locally away from Griffin's grasp. If everyone who wants change did the same and started telling everyone in their units the truth Griffin will be gone within a year.

childline fan said...

Anonymous said...
"Everyone has their own sexuality and are entitled to it as long as it isn't inflicted on children, animals or in a violent way".

Peedo Boy obviously falls outside of the accectible syndrome, you dim-witted griffinite muppet!

Anonymous said...

"Everyone has their own sexuality and are entitled to it as long as it isn't inflicted on children, animals or in a violent way"

Does that include Bumbrook and his gay porn movies?

priest said...

Sex outside of marriage is a sin in Christianity.

highlands said...

Has Louise Scott really gone back to the One Eyed Monster for good, or is she pretending, just to stir things up?

croydon said...

i suspect paranoid beagal lee barnes is trolling this blog posting lies about the rebellion to undermine oppositionn to cyclops gri££in

hasn't he got important bnp matters to deal with instead of posting pro cyclops crap all the time

non renewed said...

Why are Nick Griffin's supporters so anally retentive?

Is it because they know they are losing the battle big-time, and once their guard drops, like at the rwb, everybody will turn on the generals and the crooks, kidd fiddlers and secret service narks will be history?

Anonymous said...

anonymous wrote: - "Everyone has their own sexuality and are entitled to it as long as it isn't inflicted on children, animals"

John Walker sent horse porn to bnp members critical of nick griffin lest us not forget

LB you sad sad freak said...

Lee Barnes may well post on this blog; but that’s not surprising really when we consider that no rational person ever bothers to read his let along actually posts on it!
My heart bleeds for the poisonous slimbag.

dave said...

Griffo you brought this on yourself with many stupid paranoid decisions. You need to make ALL the changes the PARTY are calling for and fast or you will be history.

it was once said and you agreed Nick that you are our greatest asset and our greatest liability.
fix the liability side by listening to the members and we may just have a party that can win the country back.

now people back to the main issue to keep you focussed, what result would the reds hate the most from all of this?

1. Mark collett and pervert crew exiled for good along with the wifeswappers and equine pornographers.

2. Sadie and the rest of the VoC rebs reinstated and given life memberships that can never be cancelled by dictators, without being put to a vote.

3. south africans and all foreign white nationalists pushed out of the party for not being anglo-saxan british. again it could be put to a vote.

4. Accounts should be scutinised by twelve trusted non griffinite inner circles members each and every month.

5. Anybody trying to sabotage us from above, like Griffin,should be publiclly exposed in the media as the lying traitorous scumbags they are.

That includes U lee Barnes

Anonymous said...

When Gri££in calls you traitors he means to him and his money making scam whereby he fools honest Brits into thinking he will champion their cause.

The whole crooked gri££in gang are in on it. You work your socks off and they live the life of the gentry.

You have to come up with something better than a challenge because I and many more haven't renewed and won't while he is in control.

ex said...

The difference between you and the Griffin cabal is there for all to see... honest and the courage to admit when your wrong and better still the ability to ensure such mistakes are not repeated.

I'm behind you all, all the way. Down with Griffinism!

elliot said...

To all those who have doubts about Griffin but are either sitting on the fence to see how things progress, afraid of damaging the nationalist cause or sticking with him for “old time’s sake” should seriously consider their stance before it is too late and Griffin reigns forever until Collett or his ugly daughter takes over.

SITTING ON THE FENCE.
This may seem like a nice safe option and one which merely protects and your position within the party.

AFRAID OF DAMAGING THE NATIONALIST CAUSE.
This is understandable, but it should be considered that any short term success under the “Official BNP” ticket in the European Elections will be at the expense of evolving a baggage-free nationalist party with policies and management that is acceptable to the British electorate

STICKING WITH HIM FOR “OLD TIME’S SAKE.
Again this is understandable, many of you have known “Nick” since your NF days or since the BNP was formed. It is unlikely that any of you will question his leadership since he has led the party out of the political wilderness into a position of some respectability.

If any of you have any doubts now is the time to check out the facts regarding Nick’s behind the scene corruption, manipulation, purging of party members, etc, etc, etc, and make a considered judgement regarding your continuing support for Nick Griffin as Party Leader.

There are normally very few opportunities to correct years of mismanagement and corruption in any organisation.

We in the BNP have such an opportunity available to us during the RWB later this month when Griffin and chums can be caught off guard, and the old guard can be overthrown without anyone expecting it.

If we have enough people rising up against NG, there will be nowhere for the criminal and traitor to nationalism to hide, and he will have to answer for his actions in the form of a summary party tribunal, only this time, he will be the one in the dock.

Take the bull by the horns, and victory will be ours.

Don’t miss the chance for change, renegade BNP footsoldiers, before its too late!

Anti-gag said...

Griffin's ability to state the bleeding obvious, albeit in a very charismatic way, doesn't mean that he is capable of providing a solution to our nations ills. Yes he is intelligent (unlike most of the rest of his cronies), but he is clearly not capable of leading a successful political party which is able to cure those ills.

Having listened to his very erudite speeches since 1999 I can say: 'yes his is a very charismatic and persuasive person', but the simply fact is after 9 years of his leadership we are no closer now to saving this country than we were in 1999. Nick Griffin has failed to make any significant headway in 9 years. Let's stop putting our faith in a show business personality type leader, and look for a competent ships captain.

I'm sick and tired of hearing: 'just wait everything will be OK', it won't! In a time when the ruling party (ie New Labour) is more unpopular than at any other time in the last 25 years, voters are not doing what Griffin promised they would do 'turning to the BNP', but simple doing what they have always done at such times: turning to the established opposition party the Tories. Loyalty to Griffin may well be seen by some as being very commendable, but be in no doubt in reality it is also selling our country down the river, nothing less!

The question every member must now ask is: ' is the BNP simply a Nick Griffin Fan Club or a serious political party?' it's our chose.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)