Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Griffin’s Great 2008 RWB Hangover


We have received a large amount of information from our supporters and campaign team over the past few days. In order to keep this article within a manageable length we will only stick to what we know to be the facts.

The silent bomb blast – (that you were never supposed to know about)

Firstly, we can once again verify that there was an attack on the main gate area of the RWB site in the early hours of Friday morning. Our reliable sources reported to us that this attack involved something "very loud indeed" followed by intense police activity around the area of the
front gate .

The Party, media and police have remained eerily silent about this incident, even with one of Griffin’s attack blogs – Covert Undercover Nuisance Tactics – hurriedly back-peddling on a earlier semi-literate report about it with an equally hastily prepared story posted a couple of hours later at the behest of a seething-mad Griffin, worried that members would not attend the RWB because of it and potentially leading to the Party becoming "bankrupted" as he put it himself.

Quite how the membership is supposed to believe that a bomb throwing extremist, can within a few hours be written off as simply an exuberant local youth at play at 3.50am, baffles the imagination.

Vital information withheld?

The full truth surrounding this incident will hopefully be released in the fullness of time, but meanwhile two things we at Challenge for Leadership are hoping for -

Firstly, that there is indeed an ongoing police investigation that will lead to the cowardly culprits being apprehended soon to face proper justice.

Secondly, that Griffin has not put money before the welfare of the membership by withholding vital information that could have put more lives at risk over the weekend.

Would not planning, professionalism, reassurance and honesty have been a far better way of dealing with such a threat and adversity?

What will happen in the future should our Party face such a situation again?

Should we all just simply rely on Griffin to use his ‘Truth-JCB’ once again to push the things he deems as unhelpful to his aims all under the carpet that now also include major security issues?

Maybe next year he could sell lucky rabbit’s feet on the gate in place of risk assessments; he’d be able to make a few quid at the same time then?

Gambles and sleepless nights

One has to ask this question: Why did various factions of the far-left pay so much attention to the RWB this year, when in the past their efforts have been negligible to non-existent in the peak years in Sawley and last year in Denby?

It is our belief that they were simply taking advantage of the situation that has been effectively handed to them on a plate. With Griffin’s popularity at a critically low level, the Party purged of most of its valuable and effective officers, and with the Party coffers running at almost empty, they have simply seen the Party’s chin exposed and have tried to place a well aimed knock-out blow.

Staging the RWB requires a huge inward investment that will always be a gamble to some degree or another; that gamble this year was truly vast and Griffin experienced many a sleepless night in the run up to it.

Unwashed - but not entirely stupid

The tactic of the far-left was quite a simple one, prevent or deter people from accessing the RWB site. With each car that they could turn home, goes with it at least £30 out of Griffin’s pocket, plus of course all the food and donation money that individual branches would also lose. This tactic would not usually work as nationalist people are generally a lot tougher than most and it would normally take a lot more than far-left intimidation, threats and a protest march to stop them.

‘Reds’ and the Boys in Blue

However, as already mentioned, a great many members have already lost or are losing their belief in Griffin’s bitter version of the BNP, and some people only needed one minor excuse not to attend what many have now come to see as simply a weekend of Griffin-worship and affirmation to Griffinism. Being presented with a mob of abuse-hurling morons, and lines of police; some in full riot gear batons drawn, could just have presented that very excuse needed.

Old chestnuts - The media trap

A great many of the red-bloodied membership present would also have wanted the opportunity to teach these idiots, largely made up of middle-class spoilt-brat teenagers, a good clip around the ear and sent scurrying off to bed with their tails between their legs. The sight of these idiots playing silly buggers in the road with the police was really quite pathetic.


However, they knew only too well that it only needed a group of BNP father-members who had wives and children to leave the site and issue out some ‘old fashioned justice’ to them in front of the media and police and they would have been straight down the cells and all over the national papers with headlines such as ‘BNP thugs arrested in street battleground' or 'Locals run for cover as BNP cause riot' etc.

Bearing in mind that a large number of the males in attendance were wearing camo/combat type clothing and boots, would have resulted in tremendous long term damage for the Party in the eyes of the public as selected pictures and footage found their way onto the TV that night. Bear in mind also some of these silly extremist kids are quite willing to take a beating to achieve this in order to impress their communist/anarchist peers back home about how they ‘Got Fascists arrested’ etc.

Unless we can guarantee we will not be seeing a repeat of this entirely unnecessary situation, next year's RWB is likely to be held in a phone-box in Welshpool surrounded by 400 riot police.

Griffin’s BNP- A moderate and professional organisation?

I predict that Griffin will act as he always does ultimately resulting in a series of poorly thought-out knee-jerk reactions. He will now plough a quantity of the precious money the Party has left into hiring even more security men, various security ‘experts’ and all manner of bizarre ‘spy-equipment’ to try and combat the ‘enemies of nationalism’.

In his desperation he is also bound to lose sight of the fact that quality is far better than quantity when in comes to political party security. The desperate act of flooding the Party security department with all manner of cash on the day untrained ‘heavies’ and dinosaurs straight out of the cast of the film ‘Romper Stomper’ will not reduce the risk to the membership; it will in fact increase it.

Having these guys, however brave they may be, standing in a line outside the site gates last Saturday just gave the far-left protest something to scream at and served no purpose at all except to give the media somewhere else to point their cameras. This was simply an act of brash and bravado and not the behaviour of anything even remotely like that of a moderate and professional organisation. Then again, where have we heard this before in Griffin’s version of the BNP?

Our damaged heart

The resources we have left should be far more wisely spent on rebuilding the damaged heart that lies within the membership, and giving us back a party that they once again truly believe is worth fighting for. The far-left would then fade away, starved of their belief in being able to break us so easily. Unless Griffin is removed, his greed, arrogance and ultimately self-destructive nature will keep us hobbling along in the political shadow of the Liberal-Labour-Tory Establishment as nothing more than a joke, and minor irritation to it; Griffinism is simply crippling us.

A picture speaks a thousand words – but where are the 4,000 attendees?

Not surprisingly, the Griffin propaganda machine has gone into overdrive and grossly exaggerated figures of the total attendance have been bounced around. At the highest and busiest point of the weekend, which was the much anticipated EGM, around 250 people where present or nearby, and the total number of people that passed through the gate was in fact no more than 1,500, and the great roll of cash that Griffin hoped to make this year, has simply failed to materialise.
(Since writing this article, we have been contacted by several members that attended to say that we are being far too generous with a figure of 1,500 and that way less than a 1,000 attended all weekend with areas of the site at times virtually deserted).

Does the Party leadership honestly think that such gross exaggerations about attendance will go unnoticed by those that were actually there? We know that since the heady days of the old RWB’s at the Sawley site, attendance has been falling and further misleading figures will not help matters.

An honest grass-roots assessment and report of the weekend presented to the membership would have served as a refreshing breath of air and encourage people within the membership to come forward and offer greater support in the future; from this point there can be only growth. Spin and manipulation will only create more holes for people to fall through. As we have said time and time again; the membership are not stupid Mr Griffin.

So where did the RWB atmosphere disappear to Nick?

It has been widely reported that the key ingredient was missing from this year's RWB, an ingredient so important that without it there is no spark, no camaraderie and little feeling of brotherhood around the site. It comes as no surprise to comment on the fact that a Party whose leader uses proscription and illegal expulsion as a weapon to silence his internal critics, has bled the BNP dry of its most precious resource, comradeship - a feeling of bonding against a common foe.

Tea’s-up! (50p)

It has also been reported to us that Griffin himself relieved Chris Vanns – now ex-BNP catering, of his services prior to the RWB and then set-up two food stalls for himself. For years Chris ploughed thousands of pounds and weeks of his own time into previous RWB’s only now to have it thrown back in his face.


Griffin’s greed even penetrated further into other branch and regional stalls this year with Griffin storming into Richard Barnbrook's London Stall to demand that that he should increase the price of the cups of tea Richard was selling from 50p to £1 because Griffin was loosing customers and to squeeze more money out of the hard-pressed membership!

The fee that Griffin charged each of the regions to pitch their stall at the RWB also did not go down very well with the membership, many of whom were genuinely shocked at being told they would face yet another Griffin-tax. One member contacted us and expressed, in no uncertain terms, his disgust at this act of blatant money grabbing..

Griffin’s ‘Truth’ Truck – under guard

It is interesting why, with a field supposedly full to the brim with his ‘doting and contented membership’, did Griffin feel it necessary to park his latest fad, not in the main arena so people could marvel at it (after all they paid for it), but right next to the security tent on a separate part of the site under 24 hr guard for the entire weekend.

Was it merely the risk of ‘Reds’ invading the site in the dead of night that would have stimulated his paranoia to such a level? That being the case of course, wouldn’t moving tents or caravans that had children in them next to the security area be more of a priority for him than looking after a bloody lorry?

Sunday's EGM – The greatest insult of all.

We at Challenge for Leadership, along with a great number of card carrying members and ex-members concluded that this entire EGM was going to be very carefully stage-managed by Griffin and his close clique of sycophants, and we were not disappointed in either respect.

Although it appeared as though Griffin was defeated in his 4 year rule constitutional amendment, he did in fact walk away with the entire Party almost secured in his back pocket unnoticed by most of the membership present. The supposed ‘compromise’ has left us in a position whereby we can have a leadership challenge every year, however, and this is a huge "however", that challenger will require 5% of the total membership which has unbroken membership for a minimum of two years to sign to say they support the challenge.

Bear in mind that the Party leadership is stating that the membership is around 10,000, this would mean that up to 500 signatures would be required from around the country! If this wasn’t difficult enough, add to the equation the fact that in Griffin’s BNP to sign a leadership nomination form against is counter-mount to cutting your membership card in half.

Think about the fact also that to stand as an official prospective local councillor you need only 10 signatures; and this is the same system that Griffin describes as ‘undemocratic’ The hypocrisy here is unbelievable.

Myself, Colin Auty and the rest of the team can vouch for just how many members are genuinely scared of what would have happened if they showed their support for Colin. Remember also that Colin was an immensely popular member, musician and elected borough councillor, and Colin still just fell short of the required 100 signatures.

It would seem therefore an almost impossible task to gather this quantity of overt supporters. Finding such a large total of willing members with few resources, to effectively sign themselves onto Griffin’s ‘2009 purge-list’ will be a mammoth undertaking. Griffin has stitched the Party membership up very tightly indeed.

Griffin’s blackmail, if you want him out – it will cost us £30,000+

We find it particularly difficult to come to terms to one amendment that Griffin managed to sneak through, and that is that if we want to rid ourselves of his rule, it could financially wipe us off the political map. Clearly Griffin now
knows that he is in an unrecoverable position within the Party, and all the constitutional changes under the sun cannot hold off the inevitable for ever.

Even the mere idea that the chairman of the British National Party should be ‘paid off’ for having filled a position he should have been honoured to have served is deeply saddening.

We have listed just a few comparisons of just how Griffin shows his contempt for the membership.

Average activist/organiser- Donates a huge sum each year to help keep their group or branch ticking along.
Griffin- Takes home £25k a year plus thousands through the Trafalgar Club and form11 expenses.

Average activist/organiser- Spends a fortune on petrol each year and adds thousands of miles onto their car.
Griffin- Chauffeur driven around the country and charges local groups to speak at their meetings, despite this being his job! He also claims expenses for food, hotels etc all from the Party.

Average activist/organiser- Will sometimes pay for their membership and activism by loosing their job/career/livelihood and maybe socially ostracised.
Griffin- The chairmanship is his livelihood; and business is doing great. Has open channels to many media outlets. Focus of attention internationally.

Average activist/organiser- Can be expelled or purged from the Party by Griffin and left with absolutely nothing whatsoever.
Griffin- He wants it to cost our Party 30k just to see the back of him.

Average activist/organiser- Sometimes risks physical attack and abuse during their legal and rightful activities.
Griffin- Doesn’t even leave the house without a personal minder and will sometimes insist on a large personal security team for public events.

I could go on and on, and I’m sure a great many members could a few to add themselves.

Griffin is now like a spoilt child in a sweetshop, he is stamping his feet while filling his pockets as quickly as he can before he is thrown out on his ear. He is a parasite.

Griffin – You will be denied!

It will fall to be the duty of a newly elected chairman to simply deny Griffin ANY financial ‘back-hander’ or pay-off whatsoever when he is finally excreted from our Party.

There will be no £30,000 for Griffin regardless to any ‘agreement’ that was hastily thrown together at the RWB. One thing we have all learned about ‘Planet Griffin’, and that is when it comes to legal matters, arrogance is not enough in the eyes of the law; and any agreement will simply not be worth the paper it is written on. If Griffin does however decide to take this issue to court he will be soundly defeated, and this time he’ll have to pay for his own legal ineptitude and pomposity.

A ray of hope through the clouds

As the rain clouds over Derbyshire slowly start to clear and gazebos are once again packed into garages and sleeping bags stuffed in to washing machines; a ray of hope can be found shining.

We at Challenge for Leadership implore those members shocked by what Griffin pushed through and manipulated at the EGM to hold fire and not throw away the years of work they have put into the Party by casting away their membership. It was decent members failing to renew their 2008 membership that served Griffin’s purpose by helping to deny us the signatures we needed to allow Colin to stand. Had those people renewed we would have easily achieved the required number so do not fall into that same trap in the future.

There WILL be another challenge, and this time we will be fully alert and ready.

A meeting has already taken place between some of the heavyweight, long standing and sincere British nationalists opposed to the rule of Griffinism. That meeting was very successful and was the first of many. Those involved have learnt some very important lessons over the past few years and those lessons will not be lost.

Our growing support base is spreading throughout the various regions, which has been given a firm boost over the weekend after the shocking changes to the constitution have begun to slowly sink in. Getting out there and spreading the word will now be considerably easier than before. This will make the monumental task of achieving the required signatures within our grasp regardless of how difficult it has been made for us this year.

We will work hard towards whatever it will take to unseat Griffin in the next leadership challenge and replace him with a genuine individual with only the success of our British National Party in his or her heart and mind.

Never again must we allow ourselves to become so complacent that we allow a corrupt and devious totalitarian to weave a creeping web around us all.

For more information regarding the EGM visit -
http://northwestnationalists.blogspot.com/

80 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is it true that Griffin should have given a minimum of 28 days for the EGM? If this is the case then Griffin certainly didn't give the required notice as he only gave 21 days.

reddy steddy cooook said...

It's not just the tea. The price of burgers was exhorbitant, and it is impossible to believe Cyclops wasn't pocketing everything in sight.

And why doesn't Paedo Boy do more at the RWB's?

Anonymous said...

Can't you tell us a little more about the current court case that Griffin has brought against Sadie, Ian, Kenny, and the rest of the December expelled members. I do realise that given this is still an active case you have to be careful, but surely you can give us some information about the case.

Decembrist said...

"Can't you tell us a little more about the current court case that Griffin has brought against Sadie, Ian, Kenny, and the rest of the December expelled members."

Sorry no, it seems that someone(s) has today made a number of posts on the web about this but we cannot comment. The posts are second hand gossip and cannot be confirmed or denied. One thing we can say is that Griffin has not instructed his own lawyers one way or the other and has also failed to meet the deadline of 18th August. He has therefore attracted the attention of the rebel's lawyers - watch this space but we can only convey what is legal and truthful which some might find frustrating.

Sometimes slowly catch a monkey is a good piece of advice.

Who put the BLUE in RWB said...

Theres a rumour that RWB 2009 will go back to Sawley to commemorate RWBs 10th anniversary - but Alan Warner invited everyone back to his land at Denby next year. I hope for his sake the BNP 'leadership' dont let hin down. He took a lot of stick from reds this year.

Besides moving it back to sawley will look like the reds won this year at denby.

Thanks anyway Mr Warner for standing firm.

Your right about the atmosphere, there wasnt one. I didnt enjoy it and may not go next year.

Worst RWB so far.

Griffin also said serving/supplying was beyond the capabilities of one family (meaning his) and it was unfair burden on them but I remember Chris vanns family managed it last years despite one of his children having an emergency operation.

Collett's trouser press said...

"And why doesn't Paedo Boy do more at the RWB's?"

Because he doesnt get paid for it.

He wants payment and expenses.

Anyone asked if he paid his way into the Denby site or was waved through by the Treasury muppets on the gate.

How much does the BNP membership pay for Collett to lord it over them?

I thought getting rid of the feudal system was a key part of BNP socio-economic policy. We dont want the old Norman/Cavalier landlords replaced by the BNP leadership however many soundbites they utter.

Gee Gee said...

I believe that Intigratery should be the new BNP leader. He has an answer for everything that is wrong with the BNP. WHY DOES GRI%%IN NOT SPOT THESE FAULTS AS EASILY AS Intigratery?
With Intigratery as boss the BNP will never come unstuck, all members including dodgy ones will be treat with compassion and understanding and no one will never be shown the door.

WHAT ABOUT GORDON BROWN?
You must be careful though with your hysterical obsession with Gri%%in because it can make you sound like Searchlight.
It can also drive you insane - for full details of this check out Nortwestnationalists.blogspot

Richard Chadfield said...

Anonymous said...

Is it true that Griffin should have given a minimum of 28 days for the EGM? If this is the case then Griffin certainly didn't give the required notice as he only gave 21 days.

Tuesday, August 19, 2008
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I don't know the answer to your question but there are other considerations to bear in mind I believe.
Surely an EGM(of any organisation) should be arranged at a time and place that makes it genuinely possible for all concerned to attend.
The BNP EGM was :
1) Hosted in the Derbyshire countryside. Not easily accessible.
2)Hosted on a Sunday when train and bus services are minimal--making the EGM even less accessible.
3)Hosted after a bomb scare which would deter many members who may have otherwise attended.
4) some BNP members it would appear were denied entrance to the EGM. For example Chris Hill who has posted to this effect.
My gut feeling is that these four facts make the EGM amd whatever resolutions may have been passed there utterley meaningless.
However,once again, only cout action will decide this and court action cost very substantial money. If you really want to help,rather than just post, may I suggeat that you go to http://www.voiceofchange.org.uk/donate.php and make a donation.
It's up to you. But without money nothing happens--fact.
Richard Chadfield

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Anonymous said...

Chris vann burgers and chips were a rip off. Soggy chips £2, Burgers £3, and cheap coffee £2. Serves him right. You had to wait 15 minutes for a cheap burnt burger.

south easts best friend said...

Great post - Gri££in is full of sh*t, 4,000 people? Dont make me laugh. I would say probably about 8-900 tops all weekend!

Anonymous said...

The so-called 'bomb' was in fact an army type thunder flash, end of story. This went off in the early morning and sounded just like it was, certainly not a bomb.

Be careful not to over state your case, or let trolls do like wise on this site.

another guy said...

What was this device that went off? Could it have caused a risk to people? If so it was still a bomb, what it was made of is not important and those responsible should be arrested for terrorism!

What would have happened if we did this to a labour event? We cannot down play this or there will be no justice.

Expell paedo boy said...

What voice of change could do with is a paper and magazine.
Mark Collett was part of the EGM set up .The thing is some people really think he spoke against Gri££in.This was just drama.I bet they had been going over that script for months.Paedo boy will back Gri££in all the way .He's making too much money.

Anonymous said...

It has been reported that there were 1800 people at the RWB over the weekend. I was there both days and I don't think there were more than 300 people on the Saturday and perhaps 500 on Sunday. But given most of the 300 people on Saturday were also there on Sunday as well, a more realistic figure for the total weekend attendance would be 550 to 600.

I also saw a few people turn up for the EGM afterwards, but as I don't think they had to pay I don't think they should be counted as being at the RWB itself.

Anonymous said...

Griffin can come up with ant amount of legalistic nonsense he wants, but the simple fact of the matter is that there are many precedents for political leaders losing their jobs. I doubt very much that any rejected political leader is ever entitled to redundancy money. Political leaders are usually rejected for incompetence, as would certainly be the case, if Griffin was voted out of his job.

I will have more to say about this after I have had a look through the amazingly turgid Political Parties 2000 Act. I urge others, who have copies of the said Act to do the same. However the basic point to make, is that Griffin is trying and failing to set the Nationalist agenda. He is politically useless, which is why we need rid of him. All the nonsense about bombs and redundancy money is just froth. Keine Ruhe.

REMEMBER THE REASON WE WANT RID OF GRIFFIN, IS THAT HE IS POLITICALLY USELESS.

Anonymous said...

"The so-called 'bomb' was in fact an army type thunder flash"

oh well, that's a relief then, lol!

Anonymous said...

Well I was at the RWB and the treasurer told me that 3600 wrist bands were issued, So the troll who said 300 needs to report back to searchlight.

Wigan BNP

Anonymous said...

If 3600 wrist bands were issued, where were all those people hiding when all the photos were taken. All the pictures I've seen show an almost empty site with at most half a dozen people milling around in the background. The one except was Griffin's speech when he seems to have managed to get about 300 people around the stage.

Please if I'm wrong, but if I am then there must be photos out there that show thousands of people on the site at one time. Come on prove me wrong and publish them.

the Realist said...

3,600 my backside. I was there my friend and it seemed more like a wake at times than a festival, the atmosphere was dead. No amount of Gri££in’s pork could cheer it up either (no I’m not Collett by the way)

Anonymous said...

I am afraid I felt very lonely on Saturday standing in the middle of an almost empty field. At times I could see more security and other staff than ordinary paying members. Things did get a little better on Sunday afternoon, but 3600 no way. I'd say 150 Saturday and 300 Sunday at the most, and half of those were kids.

AC member said...

Nick has lost control of the party and that is not only my opinion others on the AC have the same view.

WIGAN BNP said...

Yes 3600 wrist bands were sold.I was told there was combining the egm as well.6000 over the entire weekend is it true there is a membership now of nearly 17,000?
Been told this up at Wigan.

Nationalism not Gri££in said...

You can have Nationalism.
You can have Nick Gri££in
But you can't have both.

Anonymous said...

Whoever told you that there was a membership of 17,000 was seriously pulling your leg. I had a full membership list for the BNP and there is just over 9,000. That is fact! Considering all the trouble that Gri$$in has caused I would be surprised if even 10% went to the RWB. You have to be a real mug to think that he is taking nationalism anywhere positive.

gri££in's AC ompa lumpa's said...

9,000? I heard it was actually 7,500ish. A whole bunch of people never renewed in 2008.

Mark Collett said...

Listen BNP membership is now above the 100,000 mark and growing by over a 1000 a week. And because of this both me and Nick want a pay rise very soon.

Gee Gee said...

gri££in's AC ompa lumpa's said...
9,000? I heard it was actually 7,500ish. A whole bunch of people never renewed in 2008.

Wednesday, August 20, 2008

Yes thats true. Well over a thousand Nationalists gave up on everything they believed and buckled down to multi racialism and out of control crime just because Graham, Blake, Single, Smith, Lake and Dawson are no longer in the BNP.
Everything is Gri%%ins fault!

There is a rumour going around that assistance was given to Searchlight/Uaf/Labour by individuals involved in this Challenge for Leadership site. Can you deny this.

I do suspect that this may be true because when a mind is tormented, obsesed, hysterical and bitter then a person is liable to do anything. Please reassure me that all this rumour is untrue and that you haven't fallen into "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" trap.

RWBer BNPer But No Gri££inite said...

"150 Saturday and 300 Sunday"....

LOL!

Im no Griffin lover and would agree this years RWB wasnt the best atmosphere but the numbers attending were on a par with last years and the one the year before that.

Lets not forget that even the hostile Derbyshire Evening Telegraph banned from the site on Saturday and Sunday due to its anti BNP bias was there on the Friday and reported that "thousands of people" had already arrived.

scamp said...

Only a mug would buy wrist bands when the money goes to the One Eyed Monster and Peedo Boy to keep them in champagne.

sunderlandex said...

Why is 5imon Darby and Lee Barnes trolling this blog, slagging off the rebels?

Are they ashamed they cannot substantiate the rumours that this year's RWB was shit?

Carlisle BNP said...

Gee Gee look at the whole picture.Who is purging the bnp of its best ? who is over spending and bringing petty court cases? who wants £30,000 when they leave for being politically useless? What sort of man would make an idiot like paedo boy an official? What sort of man would say paedo boy could be next leader after his Young nazi and proud documentary?
That person is nick Griffin.
Calling everyone that is speaking out against this crook searchlight is really strange.As without gri££in the bnp would be stronger more members and a good political party instead of Gri££ins private enterprize.

Anonymous said...

"There is a rumour going around that assistance was given to Searchlight/Uaf/Labour by individuals involved in this Challenge for Leadership site. Can you deny this."

I can tell you for a FACT that some of the information printed by the Lancaster Unity site comes straight from someone in Griffin's immediate circle. My money is on Simon Darby.

Spanky said...

Gee Gee said...

I do suspect that this may be true because when a mind is tormented, obsesed, hysterical and bitter then a person is liable to do anything. Please reassure me that all this rumour is untrue and that you haven't fallen into "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" trap.

You have just described Gri££in there mate!

CFL contributor said...

"There is a rumour going around that assistance was given to Searchlight/Uaf/Labour by individuals involved in this Challenge for Leadership site. Can you deny this."

Yes, 100%, the lie started with Griffin himself in December when he called the rebels "vermin" and Searchlight moles. Utter rubbish and he knows it.

Think about this, the rebels have been out of the inner circle for over 8 months yet sensitive information still finds its way to UAF/Searchlight. if the real Searchlight moles were purged in December you have to wonder how that information still continues to find its way into their hands. Someone very close to the Leader has a big mouth. We wont be taking bets - you find out for yourself who the big mouths are.

4 Saint George said...

"Yes thats true. Well over a thousand Nationalists gave up on everything they believed and buckled down to multi racialism and out of control crime just because Graham, Blake, Single, Smith, Lake and Dawson are no longer in the BNP."

Idiot - At least two of the above remain councillors doing the job they were elected to do. The others are all still politically active and havent buckled down to multiracialism. Many of the ex-BNP members who didnt renew are likewise still doing their bit in their local communities. You must be a complete tosser to think that Griffin has a monopoly on ethno-nationalism in this country. He doesnt and his grip gets weaker every day as other fresher, more open and transparent entities emerge.

Anonymous said...

"There is a rumour going around that assistance was given to Searchlight/Uaf/Labour by individuals involved in this Challenge for Leadership site. Can you deny this."

One you started no doubt. If you have any evidence let's have it. You dont and you wont, so shut it you muppet.

Leeds member said...

"Things did get a little better on Sunday afternoon, but 3600 no way. I'd say 150 Saturday and 300 Sunday at the most, and half of those were kids."

Sounds like a red troll to me. Numbers slightly down on last year, maybe 2300-2500. Atmosphere was shit, rain didnt help but no evening entertainment was the biggest downer. Hope it's held back in Sawley next year- never had any probs up there and masses of open countryside.

Anonymous said...

Where is the "live" BNPtv footage we were promised from the truth in a box?

Wasnt BNPtv on site this year. Didnt see Rod - not to say he wasnt there but I didnt see him. Where is this magic box anyway? Who has seen it? What's in it and why wasnt it used at Denby?

New broom needed said...

"Political leaders are usually rejected for incompetence, as would certainly be the case, if Griffin was voted out of his job."

It is true that a government cannot bind its successors, same with a political party or any other unincorporated organisation. A new elected leader could just tear up the severence pay deal and send Griffin packing without a penny. What a parasite!

Anonymous said...

Where is the "live" BNPtv footage we were promised from the truth in a box?

A question I asked Simon Darby on this blog. No surprise he hasnt answered it. He never answers straightforward questions. There never was a truth box. Donors were duped - mugs. BNptv hasnt been updated for nearly a month. I dont think Rod is working for BNPtv anymore. He never did get on with Griffin.

Anonymous said...

The number of 2500 attending is rubbish. I was there both days and there wasn't anywhere even close to 1000 on Sunday and on where near 500 on Saturday. At the most 500-600 Sunday and 200-300 Saturday. Most of those Saturday people where also there on Sunday. So that's 600-700 for the weekend tops.

duck shooter said...

Think about this, the rebels have been out of the inner circle for over 8 months yet sensitive information still finds its way to UAF/Searchlight. if the real Searchlight moles were purged in December you have to wonder how that information still continues to find its way into their hands.

Yes, I had thought of that. The Ac leaks like a sieve and has done for many years and with so many ex-members of the AC no longer in touch with the inner workings, you have got to look at who has been continuous members - that narrows it down a bit, cant be more than 4-5 names who have been on Ac for past 5-6 years. Also no one has answered the question ehy didnt Griffin go after the likes of scum bag Andy Sykes when it was fact he was Searchlight. Griffin has a LOT of explaining to do.

Not a penny more said...

No doubt the reason for the truth truck (yeah right!) was closely guarded is because it's on loan from the Life League people and a scratch would be costly let alone the Reds torching it.It's all £££££ - fleecing the punters. I'm expecting another begging letter in the next few days appealing for money to take the rebel to court so that Griffin can "secure the future", "eliminate trouble once an for all", "punish the wrongdoers" but "I can only do it with your help". Pass the sick bag.

Anonymous said...

I hope you lose your homes, your jobs and every single penny you stinking rotting traitors who stole membership lists sent out bogus emails lying to our members lying about the chairman,spreading rumoer and dissent about two hard working officials, stole thousands of pounds of party funds stole property which you were forced to hand back lied to the police and the media about the treasury. You low life stinking shower of simpering, mewling excuses of humanity. May you lose everything and end up in the gutter wher you rightly belong.

CFL contributor said...

"I hope you lose your homes, your jobs and every single penny you stinking rotting traitors who stole membership lists sent out bogus emails lying to our members lying about the chairman,spreading rumoer and dissent about two hard working officials,...."

Yawn, yawn, sounds like the frothing mouth utterings of a certain legal weasel. Ever heard of punctuation and its correct use? Muppet!

East Mids fundholder said...

"that narrows it down a bit, cant be more than 4-5 names who have been on Ac for past 5-6 years."

Stop us guessing - name those who have been on the AC all that time. So many names have come and gone I've lost track. Grffin, Darby for definite, not sure even if Collett has been on the AC for long, Butler another one I'm not sure about. In fact does anyone know who is on the AC? There used to be list on the old web site with contact email.

Double O six and a half said...

"There is a rumour going around that assistance was given to Searchlight/Uaf/Labour by individuals involved in this Challenge for Leadership site. Can you deny this."

As the Decembrist rebels have no access to any info on the inner workings of the BNP, you had better look closer to home to find the source of these ongoing leaks. I'd be very worried about my details in the hands of the people running the Party. Did you know that the methods of data encryption implemented by some of those purged are not being used any more because, so the excuse goes...."its too difficult". Then you also have a daftie like Hannam sending the entire membership list to someone with a Hotmail account in an unencrypted format you have to ask, WTF is going on. If I were still a member I'd want some honest answers from the top table. Can I trust you with my details and how many idiots have access to my details when they dont have a clue how to use email properly never mind use encryption.

What a fecking mess it is.

Dave Hann said...

Keep up the good work Challengers.
For the good of our country Griffin must go.
You have my total support.

south essex said...

"I hope you lose your homes, your jobs and every single penny you stinking rotting traitors who stole membership lists sent out bogus emails lying to our members lying about the chairman,spreading rumoer and dissent about two hard working officials, stole thousands of pounds of party funds stole property which you were forced to hand back lied to the police and the media about the treasury. You low life stinking shower of simpering, mewling excuses of humanity. May you lose everything and end up in the gutter wher you rightly belong."

Thursday, August 21, 2008


Barnes, you are without a doubt the greatest embarrassment ever known to British nationalism.

I don’t usually lower myself to arguing with illiterate scum like you so I'll just say this. Crawl back under your rock, not even Gri££in listens to you anymore.

pockets too deep for Gri££in said...

Good report, but I could have said it in fewer words - the RWB was shit.

It was shit becuase it felt as though it was one big rip-off from the mo you went on until you left. ££££££, this is Gri££in's only interest. It cost me a bloody fortune, he can stuff it up his fat arse next year.

waiting to vote said...

Good luck you lot! I looked into gri££i's eyes a while back at a branch meeting and there was nothing in there, stoney and cold. (yes I was looking at his good eye) He is driven by greed and vanity and is unworthy of his title. I did not go to the RWB because I knew what to expect and it sounds as though I was spot on.Its all just about £££ to him and the rest that comes out of his mouth is just pure bullshit. Give us an alternative and I'm sure that they'll unseat him. LETS DO THIS!

Mike Luft said...

I would be careful because I think the left are having a bit of a laugh at you.

Fact: This is an open forum and anybody can post whatever they like on here.

Fact: The left and everybody else are familier with Lee Barnes style of writing

Fact: They know that they will get a bite off you (which you always do) if they send a lookalike Lee Barnes post attacking you - which they always do.

Fact: They think that this is funny because the result of their actions is that you attack another Nationalist and this keeps the wounds open which is what they want.

Anyway keep up your good work. Griffin is a big threat and if we don't stop him he will destroy all that I hold dear.

we will rock you said...

Is there any truth in the rumour, if Mark Collet takes over the BNP when Griffo retires to Croatia, he'll book a headline act for the RWB?

Gary Glitter!!!!

Anonymous said...

Over on the Stormfront site which is proscribed to BNP members the loopy headcase Lee Barnes still calling himself the Legal Director of the BNP - known as "Walk towards the light", probably some reminder of a drugs bust when a very kind policeman suggested to the purple-clouded druggies they put down their spliffs, watch and walk towards his torch. Loopy Lee condemns the very earnest Chris Hill and tells a whopper of a lie, Barnes was not within 100 miles of the Codnor site. What a lying piece of pondlife. This is a man who hasnt done a proper day's work in his life, claims to be a legal expert but has never done a legal job ever and gets a bit wheezy when asked to attend a incapacity medical.

The Medway mental case says

"Look at Chris Hill, he has now gone overboard in his attacks on Nick(was that Hill who I saw being thrown of the site on Sunday afternoon, squealing like a pig?)

He frankly was an embarrassment with his postings on the LU blog, where the reds mercilessly took the piss out of him. His mindset is now programmed with being anti Griffin, and like many, has forgotten why he got involved with nationalism.
There are a few just like him."

Mental case Barnes claims he can see over 150miles. This is a classic example of why Griffin has to go - the once hero of the movement has lost the support of hundreds of good, skilled and talented people and now surrounds himself with complete dipsticks like Barnes, scum like Collett and security risks like Reynolds.

Enough said, surely it's time to get back on your ward Lee? The nurses might be missing you.

Anti-gag said...

I don't used Stormfront and never have, but someone might like to point out to Lee Barnes that: I was banned from posting comments on the Lancaster UAF site over 18 months ago ago. Now that's not something they would be likely to do if they were making any mileage out of my postings, is it?

As for UAF taking the piss (as Mr Barnes so eloquently put it) out of mad rampaging lunatics posting on the web, I think he needs to put his own house in order before attacking other people on that score.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

gary said...

well somebody on here is telling porkies !!

estimates for RWB attendance ranging from 600 to 3,600 ! Can't both be right!

now, I've no interest in going to a field in the East Midlands to buy burgers and listen to Griffin - but I do object very strongly to sincere and hard-working nationalists being ripped off !!

so, what is the truth about RWB attendance?

well a mate tells me it was £25 to attend this year - so allowing for children's rates / family tickets etc let's say an average of £15 per person.

if 3,600 is right income would be £54,000.

If 600 is right income would be £9,000.

What was the income (ticket sales only) for last year? £9,100 And in 2006? £9,200

Looks to me that one of the following statements has to be true :

A. The real attendance is around 600, and all these leadership stories of "thousands attending" are bull****

or

B. The attendance really is higher, but the money (which should be supporting the party) is being siphoned off to somewhere, by someone

What do you think?

Anonymous said...

With more photographs of the RWB being posted it would be fare to say that the exspected numbers did not materialise. No big crowds are evident and even at Griffins closing speech very few. It wasn't the UAF protest or the big bang at the gates and it wasn't the weather. Would it be anything to do with members being pissed off with being constantly fleeced and loosing faith in their lord and master?

Danny Lake said...

Well there you go...Griffin is clearly only in it for himself!

Not really as if we needed convincing though.

http://www.danny-lake.blogspot.com

DL

pendlepete said...

As the pusch (sic) for the european elections gains pace over the next six months, Paedo Boy Collett will be groomed (lol) to become the puppet leader of the BNP while Griffin gets ready to stuff his face with posh cakes and champers in Brussels.

I hate it when trolls like %arbhy and Barnes come on here, defending Barnesy as "a fellow nationalist".

The loser believes in aliens and UFOs, goddamn it.

Says it all. The BNP have become nothing more than a cult of Griffin arse lickers, which is why after the RWB I burnt my membership card.

Please MI5/Searchlight 5arby dont call me a traitor for not believing Griffo is my god.

sad ex member said...

I'ld like to make a comment regarding the 'Tooth Fairy Truck' I was talking to a friend who told me that this sort of advertising lorry is something that you can hire from a few companies. You pay the initial cost for the banner which is added to a roller within the 'A' frame constuction on the back of the lorry along with other advertising banners that can be rolled round depending what needs to be on display. I thought the BNP raised/conned rather a lot of money to purchase this lorry. My question is, where all the blood money now. Liars

Anonymous said...

A rather surprising thing occurs to me. Is Griffin offering to go for £30,000? There would be no problem about that. I am sure three hundred Nationalists could be found, who wouldn’t mind contributing £100 each to get rid of the coconut, excuse my dyslexia.

dchq said...

I have been verbally informed that similar lorries are available to hire for advertising purposes at reasonably affordable rates.

Any excuse that a lorry hiring company will refuse to supply to the BNP is very lame as it doesn't take a genius to fabricate an "alternative reason" if a hiring company doesn't like the BNP.

Anonymous said...

new rwb vidio on bnp tv, looks like they were thousands at the rwb. Sandra Leeds BNP

gary glitter fan club said...

If peedoboy does take over, someone turn the bloody lights off.

Anonymous said...

We need to act soon or the cause will be lost.

Anti-gag said...

Anonymous Said:

'We need to act soon or the cause will be lost'

I say:
I couldn't agree more.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
new rwb vidio on bnp tv, looks like they were thousands at the rwb. Sandra Leeds BNP

Friday, August 29, 2008

Sorry Sandra, look again. Try pausing the film at the closing speach and counting, then move on and keep counting. Not good.

Anonymous said...

The cause is Lost already Chris, Bev Jones and Chadfield have already gone over to the Conservative party.

Kev Rochdale

best bitter said...

I dont know if its Paedo Boy who himself edits the videos but the sound and the pictures have been selectedly edited to make there appear more than were actually present.

We will not be fooled.

Anonymous said...

The only way to act is by taking immediate legal action against Gri££in.

With the Legal Beagle in the dock, the crooks and perverts would most surely lose.

There should be an emergency fighting fund to bring Gri££in to court before it's too late.

Richard Chadfield said...

Anonymous said...

The cause is Lost already Chris, Bev Jones and Chadfield have already gone over to the Conservative party.

Kev Rochdale

Friday, August 29, 2008
-----------------------------------
This is disinformation. Richard Chadfield and Bev Jones have not 'gone over to the Conservative party'(or any other party) nor are they going to. Who is this Chris you mention. Could we have his surname please? Why don't you check with me before you write c**p about me? Here, for future reference, is my email : richardchadfield@yahoo.co.uk.
Richard Chadfield.

Anonymous said...

I was on security, I recon on the Sunday 1000 tops, 300 in the 2 camp fields, 600 odd at the final speech, more came in for the EGM, in all fairness it could have looked more if you only had one eye ;-)

the so called firework / thunderflash, it was a lot louder than anything I have heard before, we suspect it was a IED made an ex menber of the security team & thrown out of a passing car at the main gate to try & get the event closed down, it did not work,

The truth truck, its not new, its 10 years old with over 100,000 miles on the clock, we have all be taken for a ride, a set of irish reg plates & a spray job will fool no one
:-(

lee barnes is insane said...

I can tell you something you already guessed, Kev From Rochdale is actually Lee Barnes, the troll from hell.

Seems like Lee's not got much to do these days when he's not being a messageboard troll.

"Walking towards the light?"

What light, Lee? The lights of the spacecraft that is about to beam you aboard and stick probes in your body?

Anonymous said...

The legal fighting fund is a marvellous idea.

The thought of belittling Lee Barnes in court, must be giving him the willies, which is why he is trolling this website.

Anonymous said...

It is very difficult to estimate numbers attending events when they are spread out over a wide area - so it is no surprise that folk trying to guess the RWB attendance figures vary widely.
But surely it should be easier to calculate the numbers attending the EGM - or were the votes on the motions not counted?

Anonymous said...

All is lost .We were conned we thought we were going somewhere.Time to hang my coat up.Just shows how stupid we have become with griffin and collett as leaders.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
All is lost .We were conned we thought we were going somewhere.Time to hang my coat up.Just shows how stupid we have become with griffin and collett as leaders.

Friday, September 19, 2008


You may feel like hanging your coat up, and justified in feeling so, but keep it near the door. And, whatever you do, keep the spark of true Nationalism alive and glowing. I feel the wind of change could very well blow it into an inferno.

Anonymous said...

I understand that there is currently another purge going on within the BNP. This time several members who are not saying exactly what is expected to be said on the BNP forum have been banned. This includes several big names.
Watch this space!

Anonymous said...

Griffin has dragged british nationalism into disrepute. he has become one of the career-politicians that he once claimed to despise.

I have been a nationalist since the mid 1970s and it saddens me that i do not have a party that i can support actively and financially. there is no way i can support the BNP while Griffin is at the helm.

The solution to the Griffin problem is to create a new party/movement, this will be a case of two steps back, but will offer a cleanly swept platform from which to begin.

Those who believe that Griffin can be ousted peacefully are living in cloud-cuckoo land. A new movement must be formed.

We are facing economic meltdown and very uncertain political times. As people turn away from the failed parties of the past they will be looking for a radical alternative. Griffin's BNP cannot provide the cutting edge politics that the British people need to rise again.