Sunday, August 3, 2008

The membership are waking!

The following article was originally sent into us anonymously as a post comment, but we feel it covers so many points excellently we have posted it as an article in its own right.

As a long time Nationalist and, at one time, quite close to Nick Griffin I have sat back over the last couple of years and watched disturbing things unfold, develop and evolve into the situation that now exists within the B.N.P.

A situation where mistrust, lies and despotic rulings are legion. Comments on various blogs range from factual down to the down right disgusting and libellous, comments that are, without doubt, injurious to the Nationalist cause. I’ve always believed in ‘Fight Fire With Fire’ but when your own fire is burning you, you’d better think long and hard regarding your motives, and that is something that many people should have been done a long, long time ago.

The Ladder of political success has always been pitched at a very steep angle by the Liberal establishment and the powers that be. Ascending that ladder was, from the start, always expected to be tough going but Nationalists are a tough breed and a bit of tough going often strengthens the resolve. The problem I had was identifying who was responsible for applying a thick coat of grease to the rungs of this political ladder.

Not just making the going treacherous but deterring people from attempting such an arduous and risky climb in the first place.Too many people, good Nationalists, have come and gone over the years and, though some can be put down to natural leakage or the novelty wearing off, these losses must be addressed, warts and all.

The fact that, every so often, members are either sidelined, slandered or purged from the party is one thing, the reasons for their fate is, more than often, never really given or addressed in a democratic way. They are just labelled as being vermin etc. etc.

The rank and file continue their plod forward trusting the party management are right and that all will be well in the end.But can it be all well in the end? Can a political party really expect to reap the rewards of success when it constantly gets rid of its best and its brightest because they identify the weaknesses in the party and care enough to take the concerns and complaints of others within the party to their leader?

In the last Decembers purges, for example, it was much publicised that Kenny Smith, Sadie Graham and the rest of the so called ‘Rebels’ were outed from the Party because of the ‘Enoughisenoughnick’ blog that was set up. Total codswallop, they had seen the signs that their days within the party could be numbered way before that, back in September/October 07.

It must also be remembered that the blog did NOT attack the party and did NOT attack Nick Griffin in the first instance. It was a last ditch attempt at getting something done regarding Collett, Hannam and the like and getting Nick to listen to what so many members were complaining about.The discovery of the blog being set up by way of the recording, legal or illegal, was pure chance, completely by accident, a Godsend that gave Griffin the chance to do what he had been in planning for some time.

But the way that he did it showed complete and utter ignorance and bull headed incompetence in reading and handling the situation. Nick may be a good orator and politician but a manager? a people smith? never.Instead of suspending, who he considered to be the guilty, pending an immediate hearing by their peers, a disciplinary, and expulsion from the party if it were found necessary, Griffin had the whole affair broadcast to the Nation and his dog, giving the blog address and started the usual round of damaging slander.

Vermin, MI5 agents and Searchlight Moles etc. He knew he would have to really lay it on thick because it involved ranking members of the B.N.P. that were respected within the party for their hard work and dedication to Nationalism. (Yes this has all been said before but the carpet has got mighty lumpy over the years and it is getting lumpier month by month.)

Griffin acted in his own interest in removing, once again, talented people that, in the future, might threaten his hold on the leadership of the party, a move that has damaged the Party and, if I read the situation correctly, will come back to haunt him and be an awakening to those that still think the sun shines out of his every orifice.

Quote from Walter Matthau in the film ‘Grumpy Old Men’ ‘It must be nice living in Never Never Land, I’ll visit you when I want a break from reality'. End quote.

I believe in, and would always support, the Nationalist belief, but when I hear members say that Nick Griffin is the only hope for Nationalism in this county, I fear for its future. It’s the British Nationalist Party and its members that are the hope for the future and our hopes should lie with them.

But if Griffin gets his, much mooted, place in Europe and hands the leadership over to Collett, so he can still pull the strings attached to this obnoxious piece of work, then there is no hope, it will disintegrate.

73 comments:

Anonymous said...

If Griffin manages to push through the 4 year or even the 2 year rule regarding the leadership election, then Griffin, with the Euros comming up, can hand the leadership to whom he chooses without an election (eg. Blair and Brown) more than likely Collett. Once in place will he be able to be challenged within a 2 year or 4 year period. Am I making sense? the mind boggles.

Anonymous said...

I have been purged, unpurged and left in a state of limbo, as the North Kirklees BNP care not to correspond with me.

Apparently, the North Kirklees branch has been reinstated, I presume it must have had a debit balance on its accounts, and Gri$$in wants to get some cash back.

Kipling wrote a peom call "If" and this resonates the current BNP. Lost opportunities and lumpy carpets abound.

Simon Towers
Dewsbury

Anonymous said...

So tell me what did these so called talented people (rebels) do in the party that was so important, apart from stiring up trouble.

Anonymous said...

Collett for leader. Griffin has got more sense than that, he wouldnt dare.

Anonymous said...

If PeadoBoy takes over he will be even worse than the One Eyed Monster if such a thing is possible.

A serious pause of thought before the four year vote at the EGM, for all members eligible to vote so think seriously about the consequences before rubber stamping the dictatorial constitution. It is our party that Cyclops will be wrecking so I ask that everybody voting will think long and hard about the future of everything dear to you before voting for or against an end to all democracy within the party you know and love.

For god sake do not let Gri££in get away with making such a disasterous decision to the entire nationalist movement or the bnp will be dead within a years time and it will be your fault for rubberstamping the evil monsters actions.

And do not be taken in by the crooks lies and false promises.

Gri££in is only in it for the money and after he wins a seat in europe as the author says we are all doomed.

Meanwhile the Tories will take all the bnp votes leaving us dead and buried.

Anonymous said...

A good comment. Maybe the truth is getting home. On the BNP web site the list of columnists, Joe Priestly, John Bean etc has disappeared, or have I missed something.

Midlands Man said...

Good article, it all makes sense.

Ex SE security said...

I always thought it was a little odd when Matt Single was called a red by Griffin when all the sh*t hit the fan. We go back a bit and if I recall, he did the following.

Became an activist about eight years ago.

Then moved on to be an organiser.

Stood as a candidate in two elections.

Took up security work.

Would spend up to two weeks helping out at the RWB plus security.

Spoke at various branch meeting.

Did security work for various branches.

Canvassed and helped out leafleting all over the place.

Wrote and printed the BNP Security Handbook.

Was at Nicks side at the Leeds trial.

Trained Nick and Jackie in evasive driving

He would have taken a bullet for Nick.

His life, like so many people, was BNP.

These are just the bits that I can remember.
But a red? A UAF infiltrator? Someone has got to be having an expensive laugh or LYING. I leave it to you to decide, I know what my money would be on.

ting ting said...

"what did the 'rebels' do for the bnp"?

Well one of them, Sadie Graham managed something Collett, Hannam and Griffin never have - she won an election.

All of them were thought highly enough of by Griffin to be appointed to roles within the party, head of group develeopment for example.

None of them disgraced the party in tv programmes like Collett did, not just once but repeatedly.

Which is why many conclude the wrong people were purged.

Anonymous said...

Nationalists should face up to the reality, that at the moment the BNP is entirely non political. It is the equivalent to a used car scam, an enlarge your plonker scam, a you have just won a million quid on the Ruritanian lottery scam. Griffin could be said to possess more or less nothing politically, except the BNP name and the gullibility of a few thousand nationalists, whose wishful thinking exceeds their common sense. And the BNP name could of course, due to his incompetence, be reasonably said to be worth almost nothing. The way forward for British Nationalism is a BNP replacement party. Keine Ruhe.

12 years loyal said...

If all your accusations against the leadership are true, and all the evidence against Nick, Mark, Simon and Lee are true, how come the Wikipedia entry for Nick Griffin mentions nothing about such accusations?

Nor does it refer to any leadership challenges, which the encyclopedia compilers obviously rate to be irrelevant to the BNP or to the career of Nick.

Could it be that non of the supposed charges of mis-management are verifyiable?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Griffin

Wikipedia is the most reliable and unbiased source of information on the internet. The fact that nothing is said linking expulsions directly to Nick Griffin means everybody with brains knows Nick is not responsible for the party fragmenting.

Wiki knows the fault lies directly at the feet of the disloyalists.

Disciplinary matters are not linked to a particular person, but the BNP committee as a whole, meaning Nick is not guilty as charged.

Anonymous said...

If the paedo takes over, yes, indeed we are all doomed. Like the national front and third way all again.

Hopefully this wont happen if griffin can be removed with the minimum of fuss and trouble.

ralph said...

Let's get this clear, do we need to pay gri££in to attend the rwb to vote against him at the EGM, or can we turn up late Sunday afternoon for free if we show our membership badges just for the vote and not the weekend-long backside-kissing fest that RWB has become.

Can somebody who knows FOR SURE please answer this question so i can make my plans for the weekend?

Marksamerecat said...

"So tell me what did these so called talented people (rebels) do in the party that was so important, apart from stiring up trouble."

Let's chuck that straight back at you but turn it around a bit:-

What has Collett ever done for the Party? Yes everyone knows he designes leaflets but any gain those make has to offset by the bad publicity he has 'won' for the BNP over and over and over again?

Hannam? Barnes?

Then can you tell us if and when any one of them ever got elected, which is ruely the whole point of a political party. Collett has stood but was he a success?

MarkCollettesonly2fttall said...

ralph said...
can we turn up late Sunday to vote against the (un)consitutional changes proposed by Gri££in?

Could do but dont be surprised if the 'vote' had already take place!

Turn up, stay, pay if necessary AND VOTE NO to Gri££in and NO to NO leadership elections

Colletts Creased Trousers said...

"Collett for leader. Griffin has got more sense than that, he wouldnt dare."

One thing is for sure Collett CANNOT argue his case, he made a total mess of on the Russell Brand clip, and Brand is a lightweight compared to the Paxmans of this world.

Collett couldnt even order a hamburger at RWB without confusing everyone, himself included. He ended his 'order' with a very erudite "whatever".

Collett for leader. What a laugh. IF it ever happens it's bye bye BNP for such a party would not be worth saving.

He'd also have to smarten himself up a bit his 'fashsion' sense leaves a bit to be desired and he is not photogenic, granted no one can help the way they look but in a tv age we have to think of colletts lack of good looks and what theyd cost us. Too shifty, too immature, too much baggage/

Anti-gag said...

I'm not going to attend the RWB this year, but I would be interested to hear from anyone in the north west who is intending to attend the EGM and would like to split fuel costs. I can be contacted on chris@chrishill.freeserve.co.uk or 01524-64307.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

ReformGroup said...

Entry to the EGM is FREE, I repeat completely free. Take along your 2008 membership card to prove eligibility. Arrive in good time and do not be bullied. There will be a good turn out from many disgruntled members new and old alike.

Anonymous said...

Collett is a prat it is just that simple.

But Griffin does regard him as his obvious successor as party leader, which in my mind means Griffin's a prat as well.

Anonymous said...

Surely the headline should read "the membership are walking!" ?

Anonymous said...

12 years loyal said...
If all your accusations against the leadership are true, and all the evidence against Nick, Mark, Simon and Lee are true, how come the Wikipedia entry for Nick Griffin mentions nothing about such accusations?

Where is your branch, the Outer Hebrides, with a membership of one.
Nick himself admitted and boasted about throwing people out of the party. The constitution allows him to overide the AC and act as he so chooses.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
12 years loyal said...
If all your accusations against the leadership are true, and all the evidence against Nick, Mark, Simon and Lee are true, how come the Wikipedia entry for Nick Griffin mentions nothing about such accusations?

Where is your branch, the Outer Hebrides, with a membership of one.
Nick himself admitted and boasted about throwing people out of the party. The constitution allows him to overide the AC and act as he so chooses.

Monday, August 04, 2008

..............................


Don't you mean the Silly Isles?

(Did I spell that correctly)

Nemesis said...

12 Years Loyal (or should that be 12 Years Braindead and Deaf)? said

"Wikipedia is the most reliable and unbiased source of information on the internet. The fact that nothing is said linking expulsions directly to Nick Griffin means everybody with brains knows Nick is not responsible for the party fragmenting.

Wiki knows the fault lies directly at the feet of the disloyalists."

Anyone with half a brain knows that Wikipedia is NOt a reliable or accurate source of internet information.

Which is whgy Griffin's sidekick, Patrick Harrington, had his personal entry on the Solidarity trade union removed as he did all the editing of it himself and abused it to such a level that they were forced to delete it. The material on Solidarity was inaccurate and biased, airbrushing out history and ignoring who founded it and the spolit within the Union.

Anyone can set up a Wikipedia entry and edit it. You can virtually put any bull **** you want on it and revise history if you wish.

Anyone who trusts Wikipedia to be a source of "truth" deserves to be scrwed by Gri££in.

Idiot.

Nick Griffin's wallet carrier said...

"Anyone who trusts Wikipedia to be a source of "truth" deserves to be scrwed by Gri££in."

100% agree, maybe the "12 year old loyalist" would like to buy ointments, potions and balms from the snakeoil merchant Gri££in or perhaps a second-hand car, "one careful lady owner, I think she was a vicar guvnor", or a timeshare in Croatia?

Make sure you remember to look right when you cross the road. Guppy!

Oh my God, this is true, a vision of Nick Griffin has just appeared in the frothy bits floating on the surface of my mug of Horlicks. It cant be....... heavens above.... it cant be true, it's a miracle, the face of Saint Nicholarse (to distinguish from the other cheery fellow St. Nicholas) - this must be worth a few thou in the bank to NJG Enterprises?

Rebel lifeboat said...

"So tell me what did these so called talented people (rebels) do in the party that was so important, apart from stiring up trouble."

They managed the Party (successfully) for several years you idiot. If you want to ask yourself a few questions ask these:

a. How much Group Development is taking place these days?
b. How much Group Support is there these days?
c. Is there anyone left in security with an IQ higher than their waist line?
d. The new BNP website might look glitzy but what has happened to the political content? Blake's site didnt win any design awards but it was properly nationalist political.
e. Why have all the admin checks Kenny Smith put into place including data protection safeguards and encryption been abandoned? Is it because no one knows what to do re: encryption etc.
f. Who is doing all that educational and training work promised at the 2007 Blackpool Conference?
g. Is Excalibur now making massive profits now that the supposed useless Nicholla Smith has been booted out and replaced by one of Griffin's "best men"?

I could do on, but it's boring. The BNP of 2008 is a shallow money making machine for Gri££in and his dwindling bunch of sycophants. If the captain forces his first mates to walk the plank it's no surprise that the rest of the crew are ready to mutiny or else too afraid and will soon see the ship smashing into the rocks.

That's enough ship talk.

Aha me hearties!

Anonymous said...

OK so some day, let's imagine, you manage to get rid of Griffin. You then set up your commitee to run the BNP. Within 12 months the committee would become divided amongst itself, and the Party would split in two. 12 months after that there would be hardly any party left.
We need a strong leader like Griffin to keep the Party together. You guys just can't seem to understand that.

Rage said...

"Nick himself admitted and boasted about throwing people out of the party. The constitution allows him to overide the AC and act as he so chooses."

Is that a good thing though? Nicholard Gri£$in didnt seem to think so when he criticised Tyndall for threatening to "throw people out" the party.

When was that? The time Gri£$in challenged for leadership. Another thing Gri£$ doesnt seem to keen on now.

One law for him, one for every one else.

Overpaid hypocrite

Blank said...

"OK so some day, let's imagine, you manage to get rid of Griffin. You then set up your commitee to run the BNP. Within 12 months the committee would become divided amongst itself, and the Party would split in two. 12 months after that there would be hardly any party left.
We need a strong leader like Griffin to keep the Party together. You guys just can't seem to understand that."

But Griffin hasnt kept the party together....

Bruce Cowd, The Edwardes, Mike Newland, the Freedom Party, Steve Smith, Mark Cotterill, EFP, Sharon Ebanks, the NNP, Jonahten Bowden, Sadie Graham, Iam Dawson etc etc etc.

Under Griffin the party has lost so many people, how is that keeping the party together?

Simon Smith said...

"We need a strong leader like Griffin to keep the Party together." There's a story about how Alexander was out with his soldiers in the desert and there was a shortage of water. A captain of the emperor offered him some water. He threw it away saying that if his men hadn't got water, he too would do with out.

Gri££in is incapable of that sort of sacrifice and I don't call the present situation "leadership". A good leader should surround himself with superior individuals to himself, not inferior types.

Anti-gag said...

An anonymous poster said:

'OK so some day, let's imagine, you manage to get rid of Griffin. You then set up your committee to run the BNP. Within 12 months the committee would become divided amongst itself, and the Party would split in two. 12 months after that there would be hardly any party left.'


I Say:
But the party is divided now, and if we don't get rid of Griffin soon there won't be a party left in 12 months time either. Committees are not necessary a recipe for disaster, but a dictatorship always is. Members need to distinguish between a strong leader (which Griffin isn't), and a power mad dictator (which Griffin is).

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

If VOC is so anxious for members to attend this EGM, why are you not arranging for groups to meet up and support each other on the day of the event. Even car sharing as I live in the south I would like to share my fuel costs or travel with others and share their costs but I don't know anyone else who is going.

Caedmon said...

A little troll said:

"If VOC is so anxious for members to attend this EGM, why are you not arranging for groups to meet up and support each other on the day of the event. Even car sharing as I live in the south I would like to share my fuel costs or travel with others and share their costs but I don't know anyone else who is going."

Ask your local Party organiser or ask around your fellow members - it's not that difficult, anyone who REALLY wants to vote one way or the other will make the effort to get there. It is in the interests of Party democracy that everyone who has an opinion on this attends and votes. If you think anyone at the VOC is going to pass around contact details of BNP members to complete unknowns, think again, nice try clown.

Anonymous said...

Your suggestion that I should ask my organiser or fellow members is i'm afraid quite useless. We no longer have an organiser down here in my local area are there are not enough members left to fill a mini. But if I do get up to the RWB I can assure you I will not be voting yes to Nick's idea for a 4 year dictatorship.

Anonymous said...

Caedmon said...
A little troll said:


...............

MMmmm. Does Caedmon owe anon an apology?

Against Griffins Stage Managed EGM said...

Personally I dont think RWB is the place for this "vote" or "EGM" anyway. Its supposed to be a showcase event and a family festival - tacking this onto it is, well, tacky! Not only that it could very well be divisive and acrimonious - in fact given the nature of the vote it ensures it will be. It will spoil the weekend. Why not wait to the annual conference? For Gri£$in to effectively sabotage the BNPs annual big event this way shows he is not a good leader but a desperate one - eager to deny to his own members what the RWB is allegedly supposed to be celebrating - Democracy and free speech and the british way of life including its sense of fair play.

I know voc, eie and or the rebels, call them what you will, are hoping to vote the motion down but holding it at the rwb bothers me becasue it will be easy to say the votes already been held, you're too late. You're a known troublemaker you cannot come onto the site, of course you have to pay to gain admission but 'security' will deliver a p[roxy vote on your behalf - in short all manner of ways for Gri££sin to try to rig the vote.

Caedmon said...

"MMmmm. Does Caedmon owe anon an apology?"

Not at all. Every card carrying member knows how to contact their own upline i.e. branch/group organiser. If, as the wee troll claims there is no replacement organiser, which is very unlikely as the BNP is nearly 50% larger than it was at the start of 2007 and therefore there is a larger pool of potential organisers to take the place of any resigners, then there is a list of regional organisers who can be contacted available on the BNP website, in VOF, in BN.

For someone "anon" to come on here and ask the VOC to supply/gather/collect/distribute contact details of other BNP members stinks like a rotting herring in Aberdeen harbour.

Anonymous said...

Cyclops is holding the EGM hoping that angry members who said they would be boycotting the RWB would be forced to attend, meaning the beast will be several thousands of pounds richer.

The greedy prat always has a knack of extorting money from his members, despite past failings.

Reform Group BNP said...

"You're a known troublemaker you cannot come onto the site, of course you have to pay to gain admission but 'security' will deliver a p[roxy vote on your behalf - in short all manner of ways for Gri££sin to try to rig the vote."

This will not happen. I say AGAIN and get this into your heads, EVERY card carrying 2008 member can gain entry to the EGM on the Sunday afternoon, free of charge. Just bring along your membership card and security will let you in.

Eddy Butler and John Walker have already had assurances that every member of security at the RWB knows this and will let you in.

Reform Group BNP said...

"Cyclops is holding the EGM hoping that angry members who said they would be boycotting the RWB would be forced to attend, meaning the beast will be several thousands of pounds richer."

Gri$$in is a sneaky git but we have reassurances that no one will be asked to pay entry to the RWB site after 2pm on Sunday.

Just turn up with your 2008 membership card and you will gain free entry. Hey you might even get to hear Griffin's end of festival tub-thumping speech and call to arms.

Anonymous said...

"If all your accusations against the leadership are true, and all the evidence against Nick, Mark, Simon and Lee are true, how come the Wikipedia entry for Nick Griffin mentions nothing about such accusations?

Nor does it refer to any leadership challenges, which the encyclopedia compilers obviously rate to be irrelevant to the BNP or to the career of Nick.

Could it be that non of the supposed charges of mis-management are verifyiable?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Griffin

Wikipedia is the most reliable and unbiased source of information on the internet. The fact that nothing is said linking expulsions directly to Nick Griffin means everybody with brains knows Nick is not responsible for the party fragmenting.

Wiki knows the fault lies directly at the feet of the disloyalists"


Lol anyone can join, edit and add text on Wiki, even university students are banned from sourcing from it due to its false and biased content. It has as much use as a damaged condom.

dchq said...

Part of the problem is that to the best of my knowledge, none of the challengers to Gri££in have got round to amending the Wikipedia entry on the BNP and Gri££in.

This is something that needs to be done soon to expose the corruption in the BNP.

Anti-gag said...

Because of numerous attacks on it the BNP's Wikipedia entry is locked, and cannot be edit by anyone other than authorised Wikipedia editors themselves. Any changes to the entry are removed within seconds and an editing block put on that person's account.

There was for a few weeks an entry for VoC on Wikipedia, but because of a lack of support from readers and constant attacks from UAF etc, it was removed. Wikipedia did say it would be amalgamated into the BNP's entry, it never has been of course.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

Unison are organising buses to the RWB this year so I've reserved my seat with them so I can vote and go home again free.

stgeorge said...

Anonymous said...
Unison are organising buses to the RWB this year so I've reserved my seat with them so I can vote and go home again free.

Wednesday, August 06, 2008



That's why I packed in my membership with Unison, scumbags!

Anonymous said...

It looks like Gri££in is being paid by ? for smashing the bnp. Nick and his paedo poodle {dont need to mention names lol} Are true anti fascists or should I say clever capitalists. Anti fascists dont need to smash the bnp .They are running the bnp lol.

dchq said...

I have wondered if Gri££in is a true blue Tory rather than a nationalist. Remember that his father Edgar was a fully paid up Tory at the time when Gri££in took over as leader in 1999.

Northrop Nomad said...

In light of the atmosphere of fear, mistrust, paranoia and widespread concern surely the headline should read "The membership are quaking"

Sukhoi S-80 said...

"In light of the atmosphere of fear, mistrust, paranoia and widespread concern surely the headline should read "The membership are quaking"...."

Getting close but I cant wait to read on Monday 18th the membership has delivered an earthquake or am I being way too optimistic?

Piper Tomahawk said...

"Getting close but I cant wait to read on Monday 18th the membership has delivered an earthquake or am I being way too optimistic?"

That's what we all hope. This will be a smack on old Cyclops' nose if it was going to happen and damage him politically. A few prudent observers suggest a 2 year compromise deal will be struck to save his bacon, no pun intended to the Powys pig-farmer.

Showdown? said...

Interesting development with potential far reaching consequences for Collett?

Paul Golding is back in the BNP and is being lionised on Simon Darbys blog. The bad news for Collett is that Golding is the Fomer ID magazine editor, YBNP orgainser and Director of Publicity.

Is Colett out of favour? Will he be sidelined. Must admit Golding looks more the part of a politician than Collett ever could. Better dress sense and unlike Collett, Golding is very obviously extremely photogenic.

Now can he design leaflets? Of course he can he use to do so for the BNP all the time.

Cheer up Collett, nothing lasts forever.

Anonymous said...

Golding is obviously happy at being a Gir££in lapdog.

As Tyndall said, "the problem is gri££in".

None of us forget that.

No matter how much fools like golding spindoctor the thief, it wont make Cyclops a better man, but merely cover up his fraudulent trail.

BEWARE!!!

simon says said...

If Paedoboy is sidelined he will be quietly welcomed back like LeBomber when the heat is off him.

Mark my words.

Paedoboy has something he will use against Gri££in if he ever dares to dismiss him.

It's called blackmail.

EX NF & EX BNP said...

SHOWDOWN WROTE>>> "Paul Golding is back in the BNP and is being lionised on Simon Darbys blog. The bad news for Collett is that Golding is the Fomer ID magazine editor, YBNP orgainser and Director of Publicity. "


Well, well, well that is a turn up. Quite a welcom one. Golding has got the artistic flair without Coletts arrogance, vanity and he get the designs done on time from what I remember.

Anti-gag said...
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Squid said...

simon says said...
"If Paedoboy is sidelined he will be quietly welcomed back like LeBomber. Mark my words. Paedoboy has something he will use against Gri££in if he ever dares to dismiss him. It's called blackmail."

That proves Collet cares more about himslef than the cause, equally it shows he has little else but contempt for his leader and associates otherwsie he would not stoop so low to damage those around him he is allegedely in supports of. What could he have on Grifin thats so damaging, anyway? Bearing in mind very few people pay much attention to what Collett says.

I doubt whatever he has could do Griffin much harm, revealing it would only hurt Collett as no one likes abully or blackmailer. If Griffin is the strong leader that he is made out to be let him prove it by ousting Collett who it seems is holding a gun, metaphorically speaking, to the chairmans head.

Anonymous said...

Showdown? sadi...

"Must admit Golding looks more the part of a politician than Collett ever could. Better dress sense and unlike Collett, Golding is very obviously extremely photogenic".

But is anyone aware why he went in the first place? Rumour has it he had a drink problem resulting in missing deadlines. I have a copy of a letter from him when he was Director of Publicity that could have been better written by a ten year old!

Seems like Griffin is going for someone who could do further damage to the party.

Bilbo

Bilbo

dchq said...

Because of numerous attacks on it the BNP's Wikipedia entry is locked, and cannot be edit by anyone other than authorised Wikipedia editors themselves. Any changes to the entry are removed within seconds and an editing block put on that person's account.
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It appears that a cosy relationship exists between the Wikipedia editors and Gri££in to the extent that rank and file members cannot amend the entry for the BNP.

Oppenents of Gri££in need their own website to speak the truth about the BNP and the corruption of their inner circle.

Dissident Congress has reserved the following websites for this purpose.

http://www.bnptruth.org.uk

http://www.bnptruth.co.uk

The Dissident Congress webmaster was surprised that they were still available (today) as we expected some Gri££inite or red to have taken them long ago.

Vickers Wellington said...

Nice to see your commitment to free speech on this blog! Two comments I have sent which were not allowed - anti free speech dictators you are!

Whilst you are all going on about the BNP's financial activities would you like to enlighten us on how much was raised for the Family Defence Appeal that we were all expected to set up standing orders to support? What exactly (and how much) was the money spent on?

You all go whining on about your alleged ill treatment at the hands of the BNP but you won't face up to your own shortcomings.

Northrop, Sukhoi and Piper - at least I have named myself after a British aircraft, not North American or Russian!

DANGERMAN said...

are you all STILL argueing?!! - Are we not supposed to be fighting to stop the following from happening to everyone? THIS LADY IS EIGHTY THREE YEARS OLD! -- READ - WEEP -- THEN HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME!!! (NOTE HOW HER MP LET HER DOWN - AND HOW THE LAW WAS IGNORED!!)

Elizabeth Beckett update: January 2008
In the words of Elizabeth Beckett:
In March 2007, I was bankrupted under the liability order written into the Council Tax Act (brought in by John Major) in my absence for refusing to pay my Council Tax.
I sent to the court a Statutory Declaration in order to have a hearing since I had not been present.
Although I have been in court three times since. I have not had a hearing but on 6th February 2008 the bankruptcy order will be implemented. I will lose the freehold of my house and no longer have the right to any legal hearing. This is against the basis of our Common Law, MAGNA Carta, in chapter 29.. “ No freeman shall be taken or imprisoned or be dispossessed of his freehold, or liberties or pre customs, or be outlawed, or exiled or any otherwise destroyed, nor will we pass upon him nor condemn him, but by lawful judgement of his peers, or by the law of the land. To no man will we sell, to no man deny, to no man delay, justice or right”.
I do not have the £1,717.24 ( reduced due to my low income from £2,043,03) for the Council Tax demand. That it is necessary to put into court if my bankruptcy is to be avoided, before the hearing listed in the high court for Judicial Review.
My refusal to pay was based on the following,
1. That there was false accounting, in that all the matters of the tax are not listed.
2. That some of these items, and the listed ones are an illegal charge under the laws on tax.
3. Some of them, such as payments to the Regional Assembly ( now under going have chance) can not be charged since they are payments to voluntary bodies that have not been agreed by Parliament.
4. That to pay towards the EU cost, such as the assemblies plus vat would be to support this illegal administration, moving towards the EU intention ( published in the Mail and the Telegraph) to administration to break up the country into lander (where e.g, Northumberland becomes part of Germany, Wales part of Ireland etc) and alter our laws repugnant to us. To totally lose our sovereignty : To support which would make me guilty of treason, and in the previous instance of fraud.
5. The act under which the liability order is applied being constructed against our constitution has been validated under the Royal Prerogative and is therefore invalid as is the entry into the EU, the constitutional reform act of 2006, the equality act, the immigration act and others. The costs of immigration are not legally a charge on Council Tax.
6. If I were to pay my bill I would be validating serious and ongoing illegality under the treasonous automatic assent and the 1911 Parliament Act which the Fabian government brought in treasonably against the interests of the people, and the principle of no taxation without representatives and the fiscal prerogative, removing the safeguards of scrutiny by the Lords amendment, on the grounds “ no bill has been sent back ” by the Monarch since 1707 by Queen Anne. Whereas the Parliament Act had been sent back in 1910 by Edward VII on the necessary prerogative protection that the Royal Assent cannot be given to laws against the Christian constitution. Asquith had to go to the country and had lost his majority, but by chicanery got the Parliament Act passed under his invalid “automatic assent” clause.
So my position is not outside Magna Carta. My MP, David Mackan has ordered me not to speak to him or his secretary about the constitution which is implicit in his Oath of Allegiance. The members of Parliament who have allowed the government to tax so highly without restraint and the Major Government that put forward the improper Council Tax Act have committed perjury and in other invalid bills they have brought through. To stand up against the illegality and tyranny, I am to lose my home without a hearing.
Elizabeth Beckett

Anti-gag said...

I couldn't believe it but in the post today I got another of Griffin's bloody begging letters.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Simon Smith said...

Dangerman. What you post is important. Can you give a link please ?

It's sad that nothing is done. There are many concerns touching on the problems of our nation. Those that defend our way of life are often not backed up by their countrymen and those of us who attempt some things, are too thinly spread to attempt other things.

I think people need to assume leadership more on these things and not wait for others that they can follow. We seem to be mostly a nation of voyeurs.

Another ex-BNP said...

Like many others who read here my family are no longer members so what was being begged for this time round?

"I couldn't believe it but in the post today I got another of Griffin's bloody begging letters."

Truth Truck? BNPtv in a box? Security for Griffin? Election results in a box?

Mark Wallet's tea strainer said...

"The membership are barking!" might be more appropriate.

If Herr Griffin's reforms get the nod the BNP will have the most fascist dictatorial constitution of any of the top 10 parties in England.

This has to be stopped else the anti-BNP media will go to town on us.

DANGERMAN said...

Simon Smith said...
Dangerman. What you post is important. Can you give a link please ?

Certainly - and thank you for taking an interest - the link is www.tpuc.org (The Public Defender). As posted before elsewhere on this site - Mr John Harris the site owner is very courteous, and is always willing to answer enquiries on the phone.
As an added note, I became a Freeman on the 28th July, and I am taking the same stance as Mrs BECKETT. I am refusing to pay taxes to aid and abett Traitors, I have requested our Chief Constable, as an Officer of the Crown, having sworn an Oath of Allegiance to Her Majesty, to issue arrest warrants on my behalf against brown and now norman baker of the lib dems. norman baker tabled a motion in the commons, on 22nd June, for an oath for MPs to be sworn, DIFFERENT from the oath to the Queen. He has the backing of 22 Mps. This is not only an Act of Treason under the 1351 Treasons Act, and the Treason and Felony Act 1848 (both still in force), but taken with jacobs and browns wanting to remove the Royal Assent from the Monarchy, its now a Conspiracy under the Conspiracies Act!!
I don't know how much longer it will be, before i'm hoicked off, i'm trying to spread the word as quickly as possible, of actions as Mrs BECKETT, as i'm also DOING whilst others seem to just slag off Griff and Collett while the walls are crumbling around them!!
As said before - I'M NOT HANGING AROUND - AT LEAST I'M GOING DOWN FIGHTING - AND DOING SOMETHING!!

Anonymous said...

I’ve just read the proposed changes to the constitution, quite interesting. Has anybody seen the obvious carrots dangling at the ends of their proverbial sticks. He’s a crafty old sod is Griffin. Getting members, at the RWB, to agree to the four year leadership elections plus a pay deal for the out going leader might prove problematic, so, first of all give them a few thing they will agree to, get them in the mood so to speak.

It would appear that the Advisory Council will be given a little more power. All looks good on the surface but who are they? Are they an elected body of leading members? No, they are appointed, and by who? Nick Griffin. Will they have any more power? I doubt it if they wish to remain on the AC. And while on the subject of the AC, what sitting members are there being coached/schooled, call it what you will, to be the movers and the shakers of the future. MPs, EU candidates and even the future leaders?

The good bits are that, if there is a challenge to the Leadership, the contender/s will, in future, have equal access to the web site, that would be nice. And again, with hustings to put their points/arguments across, that’s nothing out of the ordinary for a political party. A write up in the party publications, Mr Griffin’s generosity knows no bounds. I presume any challenger will be able to speak at various meetings around the country as well or will this be banned?

A lot of this makes sense, after all, it’s better than the incumbent leader of the party travelling around the country calling his would be challenger, vermin, malcontent, no hoper and trouble maker whilst the challenger is denied any publicity at all other than having to set their own site in an attempt at a fair crack. This creates splits in the Party and pits Nationalist against Nationalist. It’s not the challengers fault, it’s the system that is in place and this should have been dealt with a long time ago.

There are no real gains, these new additions/alterations, put plain and simply, are just carrots and should have existed as part of the democratic process within the party, the fact that they were not in place is a disgrace.

Now comes the meat of the reason for EGM, the four year term of office plus a pension/pay deal for the Leader of the Party, should he be defeated in an election. There is a hidden agenda I feel but I’ll come to that. Nick Griffin has said that a longer term is needed to prevent constant challenges being made. (how many times in nine years?) If you are a good leader you have nothing to fear. If you listen to your members and deal with problems as a Leader should, you continue as Leader. Leaders should earn respect, and with that respect comes loyalty, even adulation. But if you demand respect or try to gain respect from fear or by purging anyone who disagrees with you or shows future potential then you will lose any respect, apart from, that is, the blindly loyal and blinkered with a vested interest or those not in the know.

With the horrendous cock up’s Griffin has made in recent times regarding sackings, purgings, inappropriate appointments, the costly court case and huge overspending, made evident by the money making scams and constant appeals for your dosh, shows that he is not up to the job and failing badly. The party was getting too big for him to handle, so, what does he do, trim it to size and juggles a few thing that benefit himself. I feel that this is leading to his downfall.
So what does he do now? He secures himself until the EU elections with a lot of sweet talk, smarmy word and promises, stands in an area that he feels supports him the most and has the greatest potential and uses the little nest egg that he has managed to filter away for his campaign. Also, if the powers that be reward him for holding back the BNP over the years (well no capable Leader would have done what he has done) he will win a seat. Will he then give part of his EU salary to the Party as was the agreement in the last EU elections, like hell he will. He will not be able to run the party and take his place in the EU Parliament at the same time, Ukip have proved that, so he stands down as Leader and the party can go hang. If he manages not to win a seat then he has got four more years as leader, or a nice retirement deal if he gets ousted, then in which case the Party can still go hang.

Anonymous said...

If Gri££in is sending out begging letters on the eave of the RWB it says something about the mans integrity and the state of the BNP finances.

St George said...

Anti-gag said...
I couldn't believe it but in the post today I got another of Griffin's bloody begging letters.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Friday, August 08, 2008

...............................

Is it anything to do with a certain £30.000.00 plus legal bill by any chance?

Anonymous said...

Sheep muffin griffin is on the scroung again.

Anonymous said...

Another senario, if Griffin gets the four year leadership election deal through and then gets a seat in the EU he could hand the leadership over to Collett.

GOD HELP US ALL.

NorthWestNationalists said...

We urge all genuine card carrying BNP nationalists to attend the EGM next weekend.

We urge you all to defeat the four year nonsense that Mr.Griffin has espoused in the BNP members bulletin.

There will be a very strong pro BNP but anti-Griffin contingent in that meeting.

Anonymous said...

Is the worst thing gr££in or stupid nationalists that follow him?

You can be a gri££in devotee
You can be a nationalist.

BUT YOU CAN NOT BE BOTH.

What next truth jet ?Now that could be a money spinner.

7yrs in the bnp and for what.Feel so much of a mug.
Feel like Gr££in and paedo poodle
are laughing all the way to the bank.

NEW!! North Kirklees organiser! said...

To simon towers
You may have been considered in the new North Kirklees BNP but the fact of the letters in the press we did not see fit due to the fact of what had been mentioned before ie the press newspaper if you want to contact me you have my number as you know me. And there has been nothing to stop you contacting me in the past. You have not been left out, you just could not be arsed contacting me but you decided to post on this site instead!

Ian Roper

North Kirklees Organiser

Anonymous said...

To Ian Roper,

Illiterate ramblings abound, it seems that you cannot string a sensible sentence together.

Facts are facts, you were at a meeting of the North Kirklees committee, and Roger Roberts promised to write to me regarding the meeting. This has not happened FACT.

Perhaps, I should highlight some more of the disgraceful behaviour by other North Kirklees members, perhaps not.

If I choose to write to the press, then so be it.

I certainly cannot see the North Kirklees branch progessing any further with you as organiser, piss up and brewery are words that come to mind.

Kindest regards

Simon Towers